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re: Is Avery Johnson's contract really 6 years 18 million?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:57 am to 14&Counting
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:57 am to 14&Counting
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LOL...you think Marshall is more qualified than Avery Johnson???
I watched Avery Johnson coach in New Jersey/Brooklyn. You obviously didn't.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:57 am to 14&Counting
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LOL...you think Marshall is more qualified than Avery Johnson???
To be a college basketball head coach? Yes of course.
Even your AD thought Marshall was more qualified.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:58 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Just sets a bad precedent. Our AD is over here making quality hires and it's costing us money when bad AD's drive up the price of doing business.
To be fair Alabama subsidized your AD through equal revenue sharing so maybe that evens it out a little.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:00 am to cas4t
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Don't think he's actually concerned
He sounds concerned. He even pointed out that Alabama's ability to pay/overpay is driving up the cost of doing business for schools like MSU that cannot afford it as much.
Whether Alabama overpaid or not will be determined by the monetary ROI for the basketball program and the athletic department as a whole. Most people said that giving Saban $4 million a year in 2007 was a bad financial decision too, but that has paid for itself many times over from a strictly monetary viewpoint (not to mention the championships). We will see in a couple of years the monetary impact the Johnson hire has to Alabama's athletic revenue and determine then whether it was a good financial decision.
If Battle thought this was the best choice for Alabama after Marshall and this was the amount that it took to get Johnson to say yes, then he didn't overpay. Now it could turn out to be a bad hire and bad financial move, but none of us know that yet.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:02 am to elposter
That's largely nonsense. It's an obvious overpayment.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:02 am to 14&Counting
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LOL...you think Marshall is more qualified than Avery Johnson???
Do you think Brian Shaw is more qualified than Marshall? How about Mike Brown? Please note the similarities between the Petite General and Mike Brown. You got the Mike Brown with better branding. Although, if we're being honest, Mike Brown is probably a better candidate.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:03 am to the808bass
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That's largely nonsense. It's an obvious overpayment.
You make a compelling argument.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:03 am to the808bass
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That's largely nonsense. It's an obvious overpayment.
I thought he made a pretty good point. It looks like an overpayment off the bat but we have no clue whether it will turn out that way.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:05 am to Patton
That's like saying it's a gamble which may pay off. Which can be true. But it doesn't mean the initial salary wasn't an overpayment. It seems patently obvious that it is.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:06 am to auburnphan23
quote:Texas got a good, charasmatic, energetic, young coach and so did Bama. What's to spin?
The media in Alabama is already putting out the spin to make it seem like AJ was a highly coveted coach. Claiming his name was being mentioned for Texas and other jobs. Forget that AJ tried to throw his own name out there for the Texas job and they didn't give him the time of day
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:07 am to elposter
tl;dr
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:08 am to the808bass
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But it doesn't mean the initial salary wasn't an overpayment. It seems patently obvious that it is.
Overpaying is paying more for something than you had to. You may not think Avery Johnson is worth $3 million a year and you may be right. That's a different question though.
But if Johnson is who Battle wanted and that is what it took for him to say yes, then it is not an over payment. If Johnson comes out and says I would have taken the job for $2 million, then you could say its patently obvious that Alabama overpaid.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:08 am to RT1941
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Texas got a good, charasmatic, energetic, young coach and so did Bama. What's to spin?
Texas got a guy who is 37. Bama got a guy who is 50. The quoted statement appears to be spin to my mind.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:09 am to cas4t
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tl;dr
Seems about right.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:09 am to RT1941
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Texas got a good, charasmatic, energetic, young coach and so did Bama. What's to spin?
Shaka is 37
Avery is 50
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:09 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Even your AD thought Marshall was more qualified.
Marshall was more of a known quantity at the college level...CAJ at $3MM a year seems market to me......and frankly, Bama needed to seal this deal as we have now flipped the script after getting turned down by Marshall
Time will tell but frankly I am more excited by CAJ than Marshall.....
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:10 am to 14&Counting
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:10 am to 14&Counting
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I am more excited by CAJ than Marshall.....
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:11 am to elposter
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Overpaying is paying more for something than you had to. You may not think Avery Johnson is worth $3 million a year and you may be right. That's a different question though.
But if Johnson is who Battle wanted and that is what it took for him to say yes, then it is not an over payment. If Johnson comes out and says I would have taken the job for $2 million, then you could say its patently obvious that Alabama overpaid.
This is the biggest crock of sophistry bullshite I've ever seen. You're putting the analysis on whether a school overpaid on what theoretically it would have taken to hire who they ended up with. Basically, with your crazy formulation, the only way someone could be overpaid is if they admitted they would coach for less. So not only is your argument stupid, your methodology is useless. My goodness.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:11 am to the808bass
Of course it's a gamble that may pay off. Every coaching hire is a gamble that may pay off. Like I said it does seem like overpayment intially, but It could turn out favorable to UA. I also think it sends a clear message to the fans, Alumni, and the rest of CBB that Alabama will do anything within its power to increase our Basketball program. Maybe this pay day for AJ will catch the attention of the next potential coach, who might give us a real consideration based on how much money we are willing to throw around. A consideration that maybe he wouldn't have made otherwise.
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