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Is Avery Johnson going to be a good recruiter for Bama basketball?

Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:40 am
Just curious.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24474 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:43 am to
Yes. Alabama has the 12th best class right now for 2016.

Before he had coached a game, he had a commitment from Terrence Ferguson (McDonald's All American; 15th ranked player in the country).

He's winning without top talent right now. If he can somehow make the tournament this year, I don't see recruiting going down.
Posted by Roses of Crimson
Sweet home Ala-bam
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:43 am to
Probably as good as you can recruit at Bama. We aren't gonna get McDonald's AA's (I'd be surprised if we kept Ferguson)to come but he'll get pretty good players that can compete for the SEC tourney every great now and then. Maybe make the NCAA 3 out of 5 years. That's about all you can ask from our bball coach.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:45 am
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19693 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:44 am to
I hope so. We need the SEC to step it up in basketball. This would only help.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:45 am to
He's doing good so far. Everyone is excited about Terrance Ferguson, but Braxton Key looks like he is going to be a really solid player.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:45 am to
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We aren't gonna get McDonald's AA's to come


Would you like to know how I know you don't follow recruiting?
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24474 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:46 am to
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I'd be surprised if we kept Ferguson


He has said nothing to lead anyone to believe he's on the verge of decommiting and has been openly supportive of Alabama athletics the last several months. Not sure why Johnson's successes this season would change that.
Posted by Dirty Whistle
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:47 am to
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:48 am to
Ferguson is a all American so he can get them. Kids love Johnson and he has NBA appeal with great ties to AAU basketball. We won't get everyone on our big board but He will get enough talent to make a strong push in the tourney.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:49 am to
Still could add an interior guy like Bruno Fernando.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24724 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:49 am to
We've had numerous top recruits in the past and we will again under CAJ.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:52 am to
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Still could add an interior guy like Bruno Fernando.
I think we either take Fernando or just save the scholly. With Kessens and Taylor graduating next year, we need to add a big man, but no need to just bring in anybody. Taylor is playing pretty good right now and Hall is getting better. We should be fine in the post next season either way.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5884 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:54 am to
I think we end up getting a JUCO or Grad Transfer. There's also the Lazaro Rojas kid, but I'm not sure he has an acceptable offer.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:57 am to
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We've had numerous top recruits in the past and we will again under CAJ.



I, admittedly, don't know anywhere near as much about the history of Alabama basketball as I do about Alabama football. AL.com had an article yesterday about Schea Cotton, which was an unknown story to me. Obviously there is surprise seeing how high McDyess was drafted #2.

Alabama has definitely had some down years but we have just as much history in Basketball as anyone (except UK and recent success of UF) and should be able to compete consistently with competent coaching/recruiting.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:31 am to
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Maybe make the NCAA 3 out of 5 years. That's about all you can ask from our bball coach.


No it isn't.

I'll bet you're under 30 if you think that's all you can ask for a Bama basketball coach.

CM Newton made 2 NCAA and 4 NIT tournaments when the NCAA field was 32 teams and the NIT was only 24 (a total of 56 postseason bids). He also finished 3rd or better in the SEC in 8 of 12 seasons and won it 3 times.

Wimp Sanderson made the NCAA 10 times in 12 years (plus an NIT bid) and also finished 3rd or better in the conference in 8 of 12 seasons with 1 regular season and 5 tournament titles. He also lost 4 SEC title games - meaning Bama played for the SEC tourney title in 9 of his 12 seasons.

David Hobbs, who's entire career is so obscure he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page, made the post season all 4 seasons he was coach with 2 of them being NCAA bids.

When Gottfried still gave a shait, he made 5 straight NCAA appearances. Even considering that he mailed in his last couple of years, his teams still finished 3rd or better in the conference in 6 of his 10 full seasons and made the NCAAs in half of them.

The fact is that the 60% NCAA tournament mark that you claim to be "about all you can ask from our BBall coach" is historically the MINIMUM mark an Alabama basketball coach needs meet in order to keep their job.

A reasonable expectation for an Alabama basketball coach is much more than making the tournament 60% of the time. The realistic expectation should be in legitimate contention to make the tournament pretty much every season with the goal of making at least the sweet 16 on a regular basis.

Edited to add: It says a great deal about how much Anthony Grant (who I really liked) underachieved at Alabama when he couldn't reach David Hobbs' level of success.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:35 am
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:54 am to
Lol wtf. You are nuts if you think you should be AT LEAST making the Sweet 16 on a regular basis.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21671 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Is Avery Johnson going to be a good recruiter for Bama basketball?


Yes.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18495 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:14 am to
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Is Avery Johnson going to be a good recruiter for Bama basketball?
His name will draw interest from recruits, but the product on the court will have to help sell the message.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:17 am to
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Lol wtf. You are nuts if you think you should be AT LEAST making the Sweet 16 on a regular basis.


That's right. It is nuts. Why should I simply look at history and assume that a program which made the sweet 16 6 times in a 10 year span and made it 8 times in a 30 year span (all of which were after the tourney went to 64 teams) is an indication that it can be done again?

I mean, that has to be a fantasy right?
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:28 am to
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I mean, that has to be a fantasy right?


Well it sure is high delusion if that is the expectation. Arkansas once made the Final Four 3 times in about 6 years. It doesn't mean that that is my expectation for Arkansas basketball
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