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re: Ingram 2009 and Fournette

Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72942 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:09 pm to
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Now after LF was shut down, that the purple and gold spin is being applied and postitive comparisons are being made to Mark in an attempt to salvage Buga's Heisman hopes? Truly pathetic


We wouldn't do that. You are misrepresenting things.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:10 pm to
How many games did Ingram and BAMA lose that year?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:19 pm to
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But his team won the game and he rushed for over 100 yards and 3 TDs in the SEC Championship Game the next week. He also had close to 100 receiving yards in the title game.

This, This, This. If Bama wins out and Henry rushes an average of 120+ and 2 touchdowns from here out, Henry will take it home. Having that extra game will be crucial
Posted by Tuskkman
Hoover Alabama
Member since Jun 2015
1626 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:35 pm to
But LSU might very well not have the SECCG like Ingram and ama had.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:38 pm to
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How many games did Ingram and BAMA lose that year?


Serious question, do you people who keep bringing this up understand how the heisman voting works? I really don't think you do.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84086 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:44 pm to
Fournette still has much better stats with one less game. Henry isn't in the driver's seat IMO. He definitely moved way up, but It's still LF's to lose IMO.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:49 pm to
Fournette wasn't even the best player on the field last night, much less the entire nation.
Posted by reauxl tigers7
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1139 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:54 pm to
Bama fans are the pathetic ones trying to act like over 100 yds in a game is heisman worthy. If Ingram had played for LSU, no doubt Bama fans would be laughing at him. Funny how that works.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84086 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:54 pm to
That's just ignorant. A running back needs people to block for him. No running back would have got yards behind our line last night. Fournette is still an amazing running back, and still has better stats than anyone. That's how far out in front of everyone else he was.
Posted by reauxl tigers7
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1139 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 5:59 pm to
That's 100% false if Fournette has been doing what he's been doing. If Henry faced a decent defensive line like Florida, his acceleration and stride are too damn slow to get past the line. All he has is size and power. LF has size, power, agility and quickness. Clearly the Trophy is still his to lose
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:06 pm to
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That's 100% false if Fournette has been doing what he's been doing. If Henry faced a decent defensive line like Florida, his acceleration and stride are too damn slow to get past the line. All he has is size and power. LF has size, power, agility and quickness. Clearly the Trophy is still his to lose
So now LSU's defensive line is trash? You guys surely will cut off your nose to spite your face He played against the best defense and was stuffed, certainly you see that he isn't as great as once thought
Posted by HaloWarriors
Murfreesboro, TN
Member since Feb 2010
3351 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:08 pm to
Henry was a beast last night - I was truly impressed. I won't have a problem if he wins the Heisman at all. I can easily give credit where credit is due.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84086 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:15 pm to
Last night changes nothing about how Fournette is. It changes how we view our offensive line though.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:26 pm to
What made Ingram's season so special, were those big moments in the games that mattered most. That's what championship players do. Ingram stepped up in most of Bama biggest games and helped Bama go undefeated in 2009.

Fournette still has a chance to rebound and I believe Ingram had one down game that 2009 season.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 6:28 pm to
Ingram struggled against Auburn in '09. The Tigers sold out to stop the run and they came close to pulling off a shocking upset. McElroy of all people came up big and saved the day.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:02 pm to
First of all, unlike all the L5U fans, there are likely many Heisman voters around the country who have seen Fournette play one game...last night. The image of Henry running wild while Fournette was shut down...embarrassingly so...is an image that will last in their minds. Combine that with the fact that the SECCG would give Henry one last opportunity to have a big game on a big stage and make the last impression in their minds.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:03 pm to
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Fournette has 3 games to save his campaign

And one of those is against Texas A&M
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:05 pm to
2009 just didn't have any great offensive players.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:05 pm to
Ingram was able to rebound because he had a big game in the SEC Championship while other contenders (McCoy vs Nebraska and Tebow to a lesser extent vs Alabama) struggled. Also Gerhart didn't play the final week.

Fournette will have a hard time winning if hes sitting at home and Henry is playing UF for the SEC Title among other contenders playing on the final week.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 8:08 pm to
Florida has a very good rush defense. I don't see him running wild on them, and he would basically have to IMO.

Heisman is a bullshite award that is based on a lot of well-timed hype and luck. Fournette was a #1 recruit, turned it on late last year against TAMU and ND, and exploded onto the scene during the AU game, so much so that Danielson half-jokingly asked if he could pencil in his Heisman ballot then. As sad as it is, Chubb's injury basically ensured that the singular focus of the SEC was on Fournette. As a result, he's been the overwhelming favorite throughout the season. Fournette is going to absolutely twerk TAMU and will probably put up 180+ on Ole Miss. He's in the driver's seat. It will be interesting to see how the Vegas odds change.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 8:16 pm
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