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re: Incredible Auburn Offense Stat
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:22 am to warcry
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:22 am to warcry
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I often wonder if the responsibility of being a head coach is too much for him. Some people are just better coordinators,
This is an often overlooked point. Something in my gut says this may be true of Kiffin as well.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:24 am to Crimson Legend
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This is an often overlooked point. Something in my gut says this may be true of Kiffin as well.
Dana Holgorsen is a good example of that as well.
But at this point I'm not convinced Gus could shed all the HC duties and go be a good OC somewhere else.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:26 am to Crimson Legend
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may be true of Kiffin as well
I 100% think it's true of Kiffin. I think it could be true of Muschamp as well. And like Duncan said, Holgerson also.
Being a coach and a CEO are very, very different skillsets.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:27 am to SummerOfGeorge
Auburns going to score 40+ on LSU and Bama
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:27 am to DuncanIdaho
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But at this point I'm not convinced Gus could shed all the HC duties and go be a good OC somewhere else.
I do think sometimes you get paralyzed. Look at Kiffin at USC. The stuff he did on offense was nothing like what he is doing now. It was also nothing like what he did at Tennessee. He was predictable and average, even when he knew he needed to be something different. I think the pressure of certain situations just paralyzes a lot of people who are generally pretty good at being creative.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:28 am to Old Sarge
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Auburns going to score 40+ on LSU and Bama
You are so bad at this
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:28 am to SummerOfGeorge
That does make some sense, especially with some of the QB's he's signed. And even in Cam's season he kept him in the pocket a lot the first half of the season.
After watching the A&M game, and parts of the Clemson game though, I don't think he has any idea what he wants this year's offense to be.
After watching the A&M game, and parts of the Clemson game though, I don't think he has any idea what he wants this year's offense to be.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:29 am to The Spleen
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After watching the A&M game, and parts of the Clemson game though, I don't think he has any idea what he wants this year's offense to be.
I think that it pretty clear that Gus' system really needs an above average to elite offensive line of road graders to be successful. 2010 and 2013 both had very, very good offensive lines. Everything starts with that dive play. If that dive play isn't getting 3-4 yards consistently, the rest of the playbook breaks down.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:30 am to SummerOfGeorge
At what? I'm predicting something? Seems like I'm pretty good at it.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:31 am to Old Sarge
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At what? I'm predicting something? Seems like I'm pretty good at it.
Can you go do your 2nd grade trolling in another thread please?
Preesh
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:31 am to Old Sarge
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Auburns going to score 40+ on LSU and Bama
Maybe. If you add the scores of the two games together.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I 100% think it's true of Kiffin. I think it could be true of Muschamp as well. And like Duncan said, Holgerson also.
Being a coach and a CEO are very, very different skillsets.
I haven't seen things in Gus to make me think he's a talented head guy. Obviously, he has shown talent as an OC. Kiffin may just be coordinator material, but it's also possible that he was thrust into being a CEO way too soon, and he *may* do much better next time around. My personal belief is the opposite, though - I don't think he's head guy material.
Perhaps the best example of this is Mike DuBose. Outstanding DL coach, Good DC who would have continued to have gotten better I believe, but just an abysmal person to put in charge.
As you said, the skill sets between being Head Coach and all the assistant positions are night and day.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:33 am to Crimson Legend
And then there's Bill Oliver.... 
(there's a topic Bama and auburn fans can agree on)
(there's a topic Bama and auburn fans can agree on)
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:33 am to Crimson Legend
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Perhaps the best example of this is Mike DuBose. Outstanding DL coach, Good DC who would have continued to have gotten better I believe, but just an abysmal person to put in charge.
I think there are reasons a lot of these long-time coordinators never got head gigs. Norm Chow (he did, but it was desperation at Hawaii and not good), Ellis Johnson (see Chow), John Chavis, Jo Lee Dunn, Bud Foster, Mickey Andrews, etc. I think certain guys are just clearly elite at being tacticians, but there maybe not built to be CEOs.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
I've always said I'd rather have a guy who has been a head coach at some level over a guy who may be very talented but has been a career coordinator.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Jo Lee Dunn
Most CEO's/Head Coaches are expected to wear socks.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:38 am to DuncanIdaho
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I've always said I'd rather have a guy who has been a head coach at some level over a guy who may be very talented but has been a career coordinator.
Yep - it's a total crapshoot. They could be great but they could totally ruin your program.
Prime example - Butch Jones. He's a sub-par football coach. However, he is an excellent program CEO. And because of that, if Tennessee fires him in 12-24 months, he will leave them with a great structure in place.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:39 am to Crimson Legend
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Most CEO's/Head Coaches are expected to wear socks.
And headsets
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
Due to NCAA scrutiny, Auburn had to cut back on paying players. Ole' Miss is about to be in the same boat.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
Gus is behind the 8 ball now. He should play to his strength, which is the defense, but wanting to go tempo kills that idea. It will be interesting to see if L7 will destroy the defense again and toss people around like rag dolls. Auburn was without their star player, though, last year. We'll see probably just how good the Auburn D is because LSU will definitely check them out fundamentally - again. I just don't understand how after all these decent recruiting classes the team could look like it does.
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