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In 2001 The XFL considered allowing kids straight from HS to play
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:54 am
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:54 am
Vince McMahon would be a freaking genius if he does it this time around. It would forever change college football. Turn the XFL into a true development league for the NFL by taking many of the top 100 recruits who could/should right now be compensated for their talents in the NFL before 3 years of college ball. Very few NFL RB's get a second contract, they are wasting their talents in college for no monetary gain.
Make a guaranteed rookie minimum for XFL first year players of like $150,000 and forever neuter college football bagmen. Make the second year players $215,000. Then at year 3 when the kid could jump to the NFL (assuming the NFL wouldn't counter and change their 3 years removed from HS rules), if he stays for the 3rd year in the XFL he'd get a GI Bill style college tuition bonus he can use later on after his career is over. Total win for the kids and stick it to the BS college football 'amateur' scam.
If McMahon almost did it in 2001, it would be a no brainer now that TV rights are worth INSANE dollars. LINK
Make a guaranteed rookie minimum for XFL first year players of like $150,000 and forever neuter college football bagmen. Make the second year players $215,000. Then at year 3 when the kid could jump to the NFL (assuming the NFL wouldn't counter and change their 3 years removed from HS rules), if he stays for the 3rd year in the XFL he'd get a GI Bill style college tuition bonus he can use later on after his career is over. Total win for the kids and stick it to the BS college football 'amateur' scam.
If McMahon almost did it in 2001, it would be a no brainer now that TV rights are worth INSANE dollars. LINK
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Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:57 am to BurgTiger
Needs to be done for college basketball more than football
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:58 am to BurgTiger
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Vince McMahon would be a freaking genius if he does it this time around. It would forever change college football.
It would ruin college football. I hope this never happens. This concept is what made college basketball a terrible product. This should never happen.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:00 am to BurgTiger
And then maybe student athletes could play college football again??
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:02 am to BurgTiger
He's taking a chance but it's the kids (and their parents) who'll have to decide if it's worth it. If the league survives then it may become a trend. Right now there's not a GM in the NFL who would ever use a draft pick on a high school kid.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:06 am to tigerburningbright75
Yep, the XFL would need to be a pretty damn good league competition wise for the youngsters. Otherwise, players that skipped out on college would not be drafted high, or at all.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:12 am to BurgTiger
18 year old kids would get wrecked by 25-30 year old men. It would be terrible for them.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:14 am to BurgTiger
It would go broke.
They aren't worth it without the fans.
The fans follow the university.
Does the NFL make college football fans any less enthusiastic?
No.
Kids come and go.
University loyalty doesnt.
They aren't worth it without the fans.
The fans follow the university.
Does the NFL make college football fans any less enthusiastic?
No.
Kids come and go.
University loyalty doesnt.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:23 am to BurgTiger
I hope it happens
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:25 am to Dr RC
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18 year old kids would get wrecked by 25-30 year old men. It would be terrible for them.
Depends on the position. O-Line probably. Skill position players would do fine. Its not like NFL players are hitting that much harder than collegiate age guys.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:42 am to MSHawg1
quote:Good riddance. Forcing 18 year olds that have no interest in school to go to school to play football is an odd concept.
It would ruin college football.
Get rid of the useless degrees that colleges are forced to offer while we are at it: Athletes are getting degrees, but does that actually mean anything?
In the words of Cardale Jones: "We ain't come here to play school".
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:44 am to Dr RC
You are telling me that the NFL wouldn’t draft the 5 star kids and several 4 star kids in the later rounds of the draft? Of course they would. Tua would have been at least a 2nd round pick last year.the Purdue kid would be a 1st rounder this year. They should be drafted at least after their 1st year in college. Total scam. You may love it for the college league but you sure don’t say that the benefit of the kids.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:16 am to Dr RC
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18 year old kids would get wrecked by 25-30 year old men. It would be terrible for them.
This. You can't put kids on the same field as grown arse men.
A 28 year old LB meeting an 18 year old RB at the line of scrimmage is not going to be pretty for the 18 year old no matter how talented he is
This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:26 am to BurgTiger
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Turn the XFL into a true development league for the NFL by taking many of the top 100 recruits who could/should right now be compensated for their talents in the NFL before 3 years of college ball. Very few NFL RB's get a second contract, they are wasting their talents in college for no monetary gain.
So much idiocy.
You actually think a start up pro FB league cares about "development"? You think these HS FB players are going to get better coaching,conditioning and development in a "start up" league? BTW a "developmental" or "minor" cannot exist on their own.ALL of them rely on subsidies from MLB,NBA or the NHL,
So you really want to draft and GARAUNTEE 18 year old HS FB players $150K? Good luck with that
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forever neuter college football bagmen.
You really believe this?If anything it'll make the situation worse.
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TV rights are worth INSANE dollars. LINK
People actually have to watch a product before "millions" are poured into any product and there's a reason the WFL,USFL,XFL and Arena leagues have all failed miserably and any other future pro league will as well.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 7:34 am
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:08 pm to RD Dawg
Snowflake mentality to insult rather than engage.
1. If you were the XFL, what sales pitch would you use in addition to money for blue chip HS kids? Develop them. You’d hire for NFL coaches, trainers and staff. There are just 8 teams, it’s easily done and what they would do. It’s how Mizzou landed Bryant and is on the verge of taking Gary Peterson’s most highly rated recruit as a transfer QB from TCU. Of course the XFL wouldn’t care about the kids just like no NCAA program does. But they do like $ and would hire appropriate staff to get the kids there.
2. A 1 year or 2 year contract for a kid that HS recruiting rankings make millions off of following and grown men follow from 8th grade on is a good investment. Also your 1 year transfers from college would be jumping right to the XFL to get an early payday before NFL legible rather than sit out a full season like they do now.
How many bagmen are going to be paying 6 figures every year?
1. If you were the XFL, what sales pitch would you use in addition to money for blue chip HS kids? Develop them. You’d hire for NFL coaches, trainers and staff. There are just 8 teams, it’s easily done and what they would do. It’s how Mizzou landed Bryant and is on the verge of taking Gary Peterson’s most highly rated recruit as a transfer QB from TCU. Of course the XFL wouldn’t care about the kids just like no NCAA program does. But they do like $ and would hire appropriate staff to get the kids there.
2. A 1 year or 2 year contract for a kid that HS recruiting rankings make millions off of following and grown men follow from 8th grade on is a good investment. Also your 1 year transfers from college would be jumping right to the XFL to get an early payday before NFL legible rather than sit out a full season like they do now.
How many bagmen are going to be paying 6 figures every year?
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:18 pm to MSHawg1
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would ruin college football
This
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:34 pm to BurgTiger
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Snowflake mentality to insult rather than engage. 1. If you were the XFL, what sales pitch would you use in addition to money for blue chip HS kids? Develop them. You’d hire for NFL coaches, trainers and staff. There are just 8 teams, it’s easily done and what they would do. It’s how Mizzou landed Bryant and is on the verge of taking Gary Peterson’s most highly rated recruit as a transfer QB from TCU. Of course the XFL wouldn’t care about the kids just like no NCAA program does. But they do like $ and would hire appropriate staff to get the kids there. 2. A 1 year or 2 year contract for a kid that HS recruiting rankings make millions off of following and grown men follow from 8th grade on is a good investment. Also your 1 year transfers from college would be jumping right to the XFL to get an early payday before NFL legible rather than sit out a full season like they do now. How many bagmen are going to be paying 6 figures every year?
How are you going to pay all these NFL coaches, trainers and staff? They don’t work for free and they don’t come cheap. The money isn’t there.
You really didn’t think this through.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:39 pm to tigerburningbright75
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Right now there's not a GM in the NFL who would ever use a draft pick on a high school kid.
This.
The NFL roster spots would have to be greatly expanded.
I've often theorized that in a world where, there simply never was college football and the NFL drafts kids out of high school, those prospects would simply fill the reserves or bench until they were ready. Maybe 20 or so kids every decade would be freakish enough athletes to see the field their rookie years.
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:42 pm to BurgTiger
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Snowflake mentality to insult rather than engage.
Engage is exactly what I did.Sorry,if you didnt read past the "idiocy" comment
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you were the XFL, what sales pitch would you use in addition to money for blue chip HS kids? Develop them
So are you gonna give them a "redshirt" year and put em in a state of the art multimillion dollar training facility with a 6 figure S&C coach ALL while paying them 150k? And THEN lose them to the NFL IF they
pan out?
Where exactly are you gonna get the time and money to do this?
Once again,it's a PRO LEAGUE and that means putting butts in the seats and eyeballs on the screen and that means putting your "blue chip" HS players on the field
ASAP.
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But they do like $ and would hire appropriate staff to get the kids there.
You do realize HS baseball players that are drafted sometimes turn down 100's of thousands of dollars to go to college.
Trust me,these kids will get agents and $150k ain't gonna move the needle for 90% of em.
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How many bagmen are going to be paying 6 figures every year?
That don't have to.They just need to up the ante...even
HS schools can figure out the benefits of CFB and the millions these schools invest in them vs a short term payday.
So do you really believe all these other pro FB leagues have failed because they didn't sign HS players?
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:43 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Good riddance. Forcing 18 year olds that have no interest in school to go to school to play football is an odd concept.
The problem is, there's 0 incentive in this sport to change. American Football is only played in one country and there's only one professional league that matters.
In say soccer, baseball, hockey even basketball, there are leagues all around, international competitions, the olympics and multiple trophies to be won.
We honestly don't have much of a reason in American Football to get the best promising athletes into the highest competition as early as possible.
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