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re: I'm hearing 5-star LB CJ Johnson will be a Black Bear
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:04 am to pankReb
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:04 am to pankReb
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Ok MR. Statistics.
Your logic is something that is used when judging Probability. If we were talking about busts or diamonds in the rough, then your use of this type of statistics would be valid. You're using the "guessing-game" argument when there is NO guessing which player is a 2/3/4 star. If we were just blindly grabbing 50/100 player profiles out of a bag or throwing 50/100 darts at a board with them on there, then you're argument is valid.
...but we aren't doing that. You're use of this logic is completely out of place.
Maybe you should go re-take statistics.
Uhhhh, no dude. Just no.
Again, you don't know who would be included had you not signed so many players. You could have lost 12 of the worst players or 12 of your best. At the time those rankings came out, it was based on assuming the top 25 would arrive.
Did that in fact occur? Did only the top 25 players make it on campus?
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Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:05 am to SugarHog
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Correct, he is automatically assuming that the lower ranked kids would have kept their scholarships over the higher ranked ones if Nutt had not over signed.
That being said, over signing by so many is dumb.
I agree. But what happened was our big targets held out to the end and then all committed at once. Nutt, being the heppin man, honored his Scholly offers to the early commits.
We got our base commits early on and have been holding off other commits over the past few months to keep about 5-6 spots open for our big targets.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:06 am to SugarHog
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Correct, he is automatically assuming that the lower ranked kids would have kept their scholarships over the higher ranked ones if Nutt had not over signed.
No, I'm simply assuming that we don't know and it was unlikely that the 12 lowest ranked would be let go.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:07 am to Tiger Authority
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Uhhhh, no dude. Just no.
Again, you don't know who would be included had you not signed so many players. You could have lost 12 of the worst players or 12 of your best. At the time those rankings came out, it was based on assuming the top 25 would arrive.
Did that in fact occur? Did only the top 25 players make it on campus?
Dear god, You have terribly logical thinking.
Say Nutt decided on not oversigning....He would have STRIPPED the offers from the lesser athletes and would have given them to the better ones.
You DO realize that the coaches have a say so in who they sign, right? A commit isn't a binding agreement. We still have to send them papers and they still have to sign and send them back.
We just wouldn't have sent the lower ones papers.
....just sit there and think for a second at least.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:08 am to Tiger Authority
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No, I'm simply assuming that we don't know and it was unlikely that the 12 lowest ranked would be let go.
It's a pretty safe assumption. We would be talking about 2/3 recruits at the most and they would only have one star difference. If you think we'd throw away a 4/5 star recruit for a 2 star one, you're absolutely insane.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:08 am to pankReb
cj is coming to LSU not the black bear vaginas
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:11 am to Tiger Authority
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No, I'm simply assuming that we don't know and it was unlikely that the 12 lowest ranked would be let go.
So you are really claiming that Nutt would have signed let's say two 5* four 4* , sixteen 3* , and nine 2* that if he was told you must get that down to 25, he wouldn't say okay well I have 31 now and I need to cut 6 so I will cut six of the 2 stars? You argue instead that he would do what? Decline to take the two 5* players? LOL
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:11 am to Tiger Authority
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You could have lost 12 of the worst players or 12 of your best
OK....I think it's safe to say you recognize that ALL players plan on signing with Ole Miss....correct? That tells us that it's OUR choice on who we sign..
Seriously...why is this so hard for you to comprehend?
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:14 am to SugarHog
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SugarHog
I guess he finally got it.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:15 am to pankReb
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Dear god, You have terribly logical thinking.
Say Nutt decided on not oversigning....He would have STRIPPED the offers from the lesser athletes and would have given them to the better ones.
You DO realize that the coaches have a say so in who they sign, right? A commit isn't a binding agreement. We still have to send them papers and they still have to sign and send them back.
We just wouldn't have sent the lower ones papers.
25 players are ranked. So when you reach 25, every player after that increases the odds that they can be included in that top 25 tier. So when you sign 12 over, your odds of having at least one of those players be ranked higher than one of the existing 25 is very high.
You following?
You, as well as Nutt, didn't know who was going to commit. So they got their 25 quickly. Then, late in the game, Nutt oversigned thereby increasing the chances that people would rank higher than those two star bums y'all had committed.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:17 am to Tiger Authority
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You, as well as Nutt, didn't know who was going to commit.
So..you do realize that people have already committed in the current recruiting class, right?
They don't just commit as soon as they sign the dotted line.
If Nutt would have been forced to only sign 28, then he would have turned down those "bums" in favor of the better athletes.
Once again....and follow me closely on this.....A commitment is NOT binding by either parties.
If you don't understand that....then nobody can help you and instead of only looking like an idiot, you look like a stubborn idiot.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:18 am to SugarHog
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So you are really claiming that Nutt would have signed let's say two 5* four 4* , sixteen 3* , and nine 2* that if he was told you must get that down to 25, he wouldn't say okay well I have 31 now and I need to cut 6 so I will cut six of the 2 stars? You argue instead that he would do what? Decline to take the two 5* players? LOL
I'm saying Nutt, like everyone on this board, didn't know who was going to sign. That's why he signed so many because the majority of his commits were signing day decisions, 8 to be exact.
Therefore, it's not a matter of going back after the fact and saying, "well, I'll take this five star, I'll get rid of this two star and that two star." That's not the point.
He oversigned, therefore, he increased the probability that he would have a higher ranking. Had he not been able to oversign (current rules), he would never have been ranked that highly because he would not have had the luxury to wait on so many late decisions.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:19 am to pankReb
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So..you do realize that people have already committed in the current recruiting class, right?
We've been talking about the last two classes for about three pages now dude.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:19 am to Tiger Authority
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25 players are ranked. So when you reach 25, every player after that increases the odds that they can be included in that top 25 tier. So when you sign 12 over, your odds of having at least one of those players be ranked higher than one of the existing 25 is very high.
You following?
You, as well as Nutt, didn't know who was going to commit. So they got their 25 quickly. Then, late in the game, Nutt oversigned thereby increasing the chances that people would rank higher than those two star bums y'all had committed.
dude just STFU. You're wrong, now just kindly GTFOPosted on 1/20/11 at 12:19 am to pankReb
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They don't just commit as soon as they sign the dotted line.
And I looked at the commit date, not signing date.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:20 am to pankReb
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If you don't understand that....then nobody can help you and instead of only looking like an idiot, you look like a stubborn idiot.
He's clearly being obtuse here. No one could not understand that it is the SCHOOL who controls who actually signs and who doesn't.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:21 am to OBReb6
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dude just STFU. You're wrong, now just kindly GTFO
Explain how anything I just said was incorrect. An emoticon might work in college over there but it doesn't prove anything on this board.
You had 8 signing day decisions that fell your way. Under the current guidelines, that wouldn't have even been a possibility.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:22 am to Tiger Authority
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So..you do realize that people have already committed in the current recruiting class, right?
We've been talking about the last two classes for about three pages now dude.
This reply right here tells me that you cannot follow logical thinking one bit. My reply was in regards to something you said about something I posted.
In other words, it takes a certain level of logical thinking to follow a conversation. You just showed me that you don't have that ability. Your ability is limited A->B, B->C, etc. Logical thinking in a conversation is A + B + C = D.
I'm pretty sure you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about right here and I find that slightly humorous but a little sad. I'll leave you with that to ponder. Take some Advil if you get any headaches.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:22 am to SugarHog
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He's clearly being obtuse here. No one could not understand that it is the SCHOOL who controls who actually signs and who doesn't.
They had 8 signing day decisions. I seriously can't believe that folks on this board can't understand something so simple.
Posted on 1/20/11 at 12:24 am to pankReb
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This reply right here tells me that you cannot follow logical thinking one bit. My reply was in regards to something you said about something I posted.
In other words, it takes a certain level of logical thinking to follow a conversation. You just showed me that you don't have that ability. Your ability is limited A->B, B->C, etc. Logical thinking in a conversation is A + B + C = D.
I'm pretty sure you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about right here and I find that slightly humorous but a little sad. I'll leave you with that to ponder. Take some Advil if you get any headaches.
I'm on the verge of having a separate thread asking people if signing more players increases a teams odds of being ranked higher, even when you are only allowed to count 25 of them.
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