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Posted by Roll Damn Tide
Birmingham
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:01 pm to
It doesn't Matter the name of who they get its the fit. dabo would be a disaster, his up tempo offense would do exactly the opposite of what has has been recruited for the past 7 years. Go after a coach who is defensive minded who runs a similar pro style offense. Much like Nick Saban and Les Miles. Shaw would be my choice. I believe Smart or Franklin could do very well also.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:01 pm to
Probably the next question to ask is how long is Bama sustainable at this level post-Saban under any replacement?

LSU won a national title three years after he left and is still arguably a top tier program.

Will Bama persist in the same way?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:02 pm to
I hear Gus Malzhan has already started his agent on lobbying for the job.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Serious question here: Has there ever been a long time asst coach that took over after a long time HC and been successful? I just can't think of any at this point. Seems like it never works out.


Tom Osborne
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:03 pm to
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It doesn't Matter the name of who they get its the fit.
Agree 100%. We don't need to make a splash, we just need the right guy.


That said, the idea of Jimbo succeeding Saban is getting me aroused.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

LSU won a national title three years after he left and is still arguably a top tier program.


DUCK
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

1. Fisher
2. Shaw
3. Smart
Highly doubt he would leave Stanford for Alabama, tbh
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86459 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Will Bama persist in the same way?


I don't see how that'd even be possible. Of course bama will still have success, just because their foundation is so solid. But I mean, he's the best coach in America and it's not really close, it's not just a given someone will come in and not miss a beat.

Bama will be good, but they'll fall a peg when saban leaves. Granted, that may mean losing 2 games a year instead of 0, they won't be awful, but they won't be as good as they are now. It's just not feasible.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 2:05 pm
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
1377 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:04 pm to
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Has there ever been a long time asst coach that took over after a long time HC and been successful?


Chip Kelly.

Mark Helfrich.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10767 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
Lane Kiffin
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Bama will be good, but they'll fall a peg when saban leaves.
Bama will eventually fall a peg, even if Saban stays for the next 15 years. There's literally nowhere to go but down. An NC every year is not sustainable, even under Saban. I mean there are just too many other factors that a coach can't control.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
even with a great fit i dont see how they can match sabans run. it is a more impressive run than the bear.

the right fit and they probably win titles every four years or so.

Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Serious question here: Has there ever been a long time asst coach that took over after a long time HC and been successful? I just can't think of any at this point. Seems like it never works out.


Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:07 pm to
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Chip Kelly.


Dude, kelly was only an asst for 1 year and he was the only reason they had any success his 1 year as an asst. Dennis Dixon was terrible before he got there from what I remember.

I'm talking a guy who's pretty much spent his entire major asst coaching career under 1 successful HC
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:08 pm to
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even with a great fit i dont see how they can match sabans run.
See my post above. No one can match Saban right now. Not even Saban. We're gonna fall off eventually no matter what. The question is just how far.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:08 pm to
didn't work out in the end
Posted by 1LoudTideFan
Member since May 2008
3596 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:10 pm to
1. Art Briles
2. Kirby Smart
3. Al Golden
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2118 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

It doesn't Matter the name of who they get its the fit. dabo would be a disaster, his up tempo offense would do exactly the opposite of what has has been recruited for the past 7 years. Go after a coach who is defensive minded who runs a similar pro style offense. Much like Nick Saban and Les Miles.
If you want a pro style offense, this is your man:

Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:11 pm to
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didn't work out in the end


was there for 61 years and got probation on his way out
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:12 pm to
well yea of course the current level can't be sustained.

im not even sure 08-11 could be maintained by the right fit. undefeated season, 2 national titles and a sec title and the 10 win season.

id think a good fit would probably produce 1 national title and 2 sec titles in that time frame, with a undefeated year, 1 loss year and then ten wins the other 2 years.
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