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If not for the 4thand25, and Ole Miss beat FL, who would be in playoff?

Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:59 pm
Posted by LOCO5150
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 11:59 pm
Assuming that Clemson wins.

I would say:

Clemson
Oklahoma
winner of Iowa and Michigan State

and then...??

I would have to say Ole Miss for winning the SEC championship and avenging a loss to FL, but still that loss to Memphis would be tough to overlook, and it just wouldn't feel right.

I think Ohio State should probably get the nod over an SEC champion in this scenario. They lost a close game to a Michigan State team that, if they beat Iowa, would be # 2 in the polls. Not bad.

Oklahoma lost to an abysmal Texas team early in the season, but to say they've turned it around would be an understatement.

Would an AL team get in over an SEC champion team that beat AL in the regular season?

If Clemson ends up losing...holy hell what a scenario!! If things work out like they are supposed to though, I think the 4thand25 saved the CFP committee a lot of grief.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64954 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:00 am to
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I would have to say Ole Miss for winning the SEC championship and avenging a loss to FL


You would be wrong.

A 10-3 team would not get in over a pair of 11-1 teams.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40250 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:01 am to
They would be 11-2 if they beat Arkansas like the OP was suggesting dick cheese
Posted by Sports_Guy007
MS
Member since Feb 2014
751 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:04 am to
The big question is why does Florida get to keep it's wins with an illegal QB.
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
Member since Sep 2011
4867 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:05 am to
quote:

You would be wrong.

A 10-3 team would not get in over a pair of 11-1 teams.




I'm going to chalk that one up to a late night, and maybe you're drinking a lil.
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
Member since Sep 2011
4867 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:10 am to
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The big question is why does Florida get to keep it's wins with an illegal QB.


Fair question. USC's wins were vacated due to Reggie's situation, but apparently giving $ to an amateur's family is way more serious than an amateur using a banned PED.
Posted by BaconGrease
Memphis Tenn
Member since Jun 2013
756 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:10 am to
Good fricking question. I'd like to know that myself.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64954 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:12 am to
quote:

They would be 11-2 if they beat Arkansas like the OP was suggesting dick cheese


Language.

I'm slightly intoxicated.

But to answer the OP's question, I don't believe they get in over Alabama. Sure...they avenge their loss to Florida but they still lost to them by 28 points in the regular season while also losing to Memphis.

Most people look back on that Alabama loss to Ole Miss and see 5 turnovers.
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 12:14 am
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:13 am to
So if Ole Miss's only loss was to Memphis? Yes, a one-loss SEC champion would get in

Edit: Oh, you meant beat UF in the SECCG. It's not guaranteed by any means. Notre Dame and Stanford have a case, and then there's the issue of one-loss Ohio State
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 12:15 am
Posted by Belvedere
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2015
374 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:13 am to
It would be either Ohio State or Alabama. Based on the fact that the committee was ranking a one-loss Alabama over an undefeated Ohio State up until the Ohio State-Michigan State game, it would appear that the committee puts more value in Alabama's performance this season than in Ohio State's. So I would guess Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 12:14 am
Posted by Belvedere
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2015
374 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:13 am to
quote:

So if Ole Miss's only loss was to Memphis? Yes, a one-loss SEC champion would get in



Dear God.
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:16 am to
Title is extremely ambiguous- I interpreted it to mean Ole Miss had beaten Florida in the regular season
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:22 am to
1. Kansas
2. UCF
3. Mizzou
4. ???
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:24 am to
Can't believe it has gotten to the point where Arkansas fans are the only people who can legit troll Ole Miss.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12376 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:26 am to
quote:

to answer the OP's question, I don't believe they get in over Alabama. Sure...they avenge their loss to Florida but they still lost to them by 28 points in the regular season while also losing to Memphis.


In that scenario, they'd have both won the conference and beaten Alabama head-to-head.

Of course, that didn't keep Bama out in 2011, but it's not the same because they didn't leap frog LSU.
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:27 am to
You also have to remember that for some reason, Georgia lost to SCAR 35-7 in 2012 but ended up almost playing for a NC.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4288 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:29 am to
If frogs had a pocket they would tote a roscoe.
Posted by Belvedere
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2015
374 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:32 am to
quote:

In that scenario, they'd have both won the conference and beaten Alabama head-to-head.

Of course, that didn't keep Bama out in 2011, but it's not the same because they didn't leap frog LSU.


If it really came down to choosing between Ole Miss and Alabama to be in the playoffs, who do you honestly think the committee would choose? Historical prestige, national visibility, and a fanbase's ability to travel are not insignificant considerations in debates like these.
This post was edited on 12/5/15 at 12:32 am
Posted by Blawdawg
Member since Sep 2012
415 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 12:53 am to
Well, Bama is #2 so 2 to 5 would be a heck of a drop in one week on non play, while moving up a team also not playing in OSU. Drop Bama from #2 to #5 when the team it lost to in a close game shows its chops by winning the conference?

Ohio State's best chance would come with a MSU win. The same logic as for Bama above. "Hey that team they lost to is good."

UF doesn't have a case because you have them losing to OM.

Without the Arky loss who knows what OM's ranking would be, That's a tough call too. Perhaps 11? 11--->4, while moving Bama to 5 and OSU to 6 with a MSU win would be tough.

What a messy scenario
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24107 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 1:58 am to
Just like an Aggy at fish camp, Bama would get in through the backdoor.
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