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re: If Mizzou wins the East again this year, and somehow actually wins the SECCG

Posted on 8/24/15 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 2:54 pm to
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If Mizzou wins the East again this year, and somehow actually wins the SECCG



I will have sex with Mrs. Killz and post the video link on the rant.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 2:58 pm to
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hat's simply not true, see my post directly after yours. In '13 there were 2 teams worth a flip, doens't matter what their name is. The other 5 were largely irrelevant.


You need to go back through the history of the SEC East man. I have done the research. 2013 was one of the top 1/4 seasons for the East when contrasted with its history.

2014 was towards the bottom but 2013 was towards the top. I dont really care but for you to sit her and act like you are not biased and its "not about Mizzou and South Carolina" representing the power is laughable.

I would be happy to repost the research or you can just admit you are being a bitch about 2013. Its up to you buddy.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Vols&Shaft83


Welcome back buddy.

Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:02 pm to
Vols&Shaft83

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I will have sex with Mrs. Killz and post the video link on the rant.



I pray that your sexual experience with my mom is better than believe it will be. She's like 66 years old and has been on a 20 year dry spell...ugh. I mean, if you were to go down on her it would be like eating a pink taco that was left sitting on a rock in the desert for the past 20 years. Licking her soybean would be like running your tongue up and down 40 grit sandpaper.

Good luck!

Invest in lots and lots of K-Y Jelly.

This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:12 pm to
kilo

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I would be happy to repost the research or you can just admit you are being a bitch about 2013. Its up to you buddy.




WG........Kilo's waiting....
Posted by everytrueson
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:14 pm to
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but for you to sit her and act like you are not biased and its "not about Mizzou and South Carolina" representing the power is laughable


did you conveniently gloss over my post on the previous page where I said the same thing about UF and UT in the 90s?

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you can just admit you are being a bitch about 2013


the hell? 2 great teams doens't make a division strong. It makes those 2 teams strong. You are the one who can't remove yourself from the situation and look at it logically because your team is involved.

I have not only pointed out that UGA has benefitted from a down division in the past as well, pointed out that several west teams benefitted form a down division, and that UF/UT (ya know, those powerhouse programs you think I'm sticking up for) coasted through an entire decade due to a down east. Yet that doesnt' matter. All you see is someone saying anything slightly negative about the division in a year your team won, so we must be wrong. Keep in mind, I haven't said anythign about missouri's actual football team. I've only been speaking on teh division as a whole.
This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:16 pm to
everytrueson

Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:20 pm to
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did you conveniently gloss over my post on the previous page where I said the same thing about UF and UT in the 90s?


Do you not understand finding the median for the East historically and then judging a season based on that median. Has the East had better seasons than 2013? Sure it has but 2013 was well above the average for the East. How is that "down"? If you are judging every season as "down" that doesnt meet/exceed a couple/three of its absolute best, well, I dont know what to tell you as that is completely silly.

I do think its quite funny that you accuse mizzou fans of being insecure while completely ignoring logical arguments that prove that 2013 was one of the "better" seasons for the East.

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SEC East final ranked teams per year:

1992: 8,10,12
1993: 5,12
1994: 7,22
1995: 2,3
1996: 1,9
1997: 4,10,7
1998: 1,5,14
1999: 12,9,16
2000: 10,19,20
2001: 4,3,13,22
2002: 3
2003: 7,15,24
2004: 13,7
2005: 10,12
2006: 1,25,23
2007: 2,12,13
2008: 1,13
2009: 3
2010: 22
2011: 9,19
2012: 5,9,8,23
2013: 5,4,24



This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:26 pm to
you and I just have fundamental differences on what makes a division up or down, so we won't ever reach an agreement on this topic.

Take 1995 for instance. 2 east teams both ranked in the top 3. Whoa! That's insanely impressive. What about the other 4 teams? The 3rd best team in the east was 6-6 overall and 3-5 in conference. It gets worse from there, with the 6th place team going 2-9 overall and 1-7 in conference. The east was stacked as hell up top, but overall? It was basically a 1 game season between UF and UT. I wouldn't consider the east, AS A WHOLE, as being all that tough that year. You had a 1 game season between 2 teams with the winner basically winning the east right then and there. I, personally, give far more weight to years that you have a handful of teams that are all at least kinda sorta good.

But again, we'll never agree on the topic. I can't say enough times than missouri '13 was a very good football team and they rightfully earned their spot in atlanta. Not sure what else you want me to do short of groveling at your feet.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:31 pm to
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But again, we'll never agree on the topic. I can't say enough times than missouri '13 was a very good football team and they rightfully earned their spot in atlanta. Not sure what else you want me to do short of groveling at your feet.


I dont want you to do anything man. The numbers are right there for you. Digest them however you feel you need to at this point. Look at the East's strength from season to season since its inception. Its not complicated. 2013 was pretty clearly well above the average SEC East season. The problem most of the people around here have is that it wasnt Florida/Georgia/Tennessee representing the Division.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:35 pm to
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. I can't say enough times than missouri '13 was a very good football team and they rightfully earned their spot in atlanta



that's all good, WG...but you've said many-a-time that Missouri has only won the East due to the East being down.

Can't have it both ways.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:35 pm to
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The problem most of the people around here have is that it wasnt Florida/Georgia/Tennessee representing the Division.


you continue to say that, despite me just using an example with florida and tennessee as a reference. Maybe it's those other folks you're talking about you need to be arguing with.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:41 pm to
WG,

Regardless of our differences I still plan to get back on the Finebaum show to drop the Pink Floyd call.

I may have to a name other than "Star in Branson". I think they're on to me.

How can I notify you? Why don't you post your email for me to add to my contact list....
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:43 pm to
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you've said many-a-time that Missouri has only won the East due to the East being down.


the east could be at an all time historic low, but you still have to be good enough to win it. I've never said the ONLY, as you say, reason they've won is becuase the east has been down.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/24/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:44 pm to
MO may win the east but will always get beat down by 30 in the SECCG

But we still love ya
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27424 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:46 pm to
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you continue to say that, despite me just using an example with florida and tennessee as a reference. Maybe it's those other folks you're talking about you need to be arguing with.


Well how else is there to decipher what you are saying? How can you look at that list and say that 2013 was "down" year historically in the SEC East? You keep skirting that fundamental aspect of the conversation. By your logic that East has only had 3 or 4 "up" seasons and every other one has been "down". In order to have an above average and bellow average season there has to be a median.

So again, given the readily available information how can anyone argue the "East was down" or "Mizzou benefited from a down East" in 2013? It leads me to the logical conclusion that its hard for people to admit this fact because it ruins the popular narrative

I freely admit the 2014 division win was becasue the East was bellow average strength. Why is it so hard for folks to accept that the 2014 East was much better than its historical average and therefore wasnt "down"?
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:46 pm to
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MO may win the east but will always get beat down by 30 in the SECCG But we still love ya



Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 8/24/15 at 3:48 pm to
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