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re: IF LSU loses... (from a realistic Bama fan)
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:21 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:21 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Sure there was. It ensures Bama makes the playoff if they win out, regardless of how OM season ends up
If you remember last year, it doesn't ensure squat. They could very well leave Alabama in there, several spots ahead of Ole Miss, and suddenly vault Ole Miss up in there after winning the SECC (hypothetically). That's what happened last year to the Big 12 teams.
This poll doesn't ensure anything to anyone.
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:23 am to cas4t
I mean they pretty much have a guaranteed playoff spot with the way their schedule works out.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:24 am to Crimson Legend
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This poll doesn't ensure anything to anyone.
Where does LSU fall if they lose a close one to Alabama?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:25 am to Glorious
Huh?
You didn't answer my question unless I'm missing something.
You didn't answer my question unless I'm missing something.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:26 am to MightyYat
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:30 am to cas4t
One could reasonably assume coming into the year that Baylor and TCU were gonna run the Big12. Also if you looked at OKState's schedule you would see that they were almost assured to go undefeated in OOC. I just don't find it coincidence that the 4 of the 5 preseason favorites in the Big12 all play eachother in the same month.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:31 am to cas4t
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Where does LSU fall if they lose a close one to Alabama?
5-6-7
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:31 am to Big Balls
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IF LSU loses...
Nick Saban will need to come out immediately following the game and say, "it would be an honor to play that team again."
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:32 am to Glorious
They have nothing to gain by doing that. As you've said, losing late is more punitive than losing early. Why would they want to schedule their toughest games late then? That makes no sense.
Do you really believe that it should matter when you lose? You haven't answered that question or provided any reasoning. I'm not trying to be a dick, because if the reason is valid, I'm all ears. But I sure can't think of one.
Do you really believe that it should matter when you lose? You haven't answered that question or provided any reasoning. I'm not trying to be a dick, because if the reason is valid, I'm all ears. But I sure can't think of one.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:33 am to Patton
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5-6-7
why not #4? Only loss is to a top 4 Alabama on the road
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:37 am to cas4t
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But the qustion remains- who deserves to be ranked higher if Bama win by a last second FG at home? LSU has the higher SOS and the more quality loss. I think it's a fair question, no?
It is a very fair question. I kinda already answered it but let me clarify. If we win a close one by a FG or any other stretch of the imagination...let's even say Fournette runs into one of his own blockers and fumbles the ball which we take back for a TD. A win is a win. And if its that close and we pull it out like that then we should still be ranked higher and here's why... Yes we lost to Old Miss, who has proven to be horrible. BUT, you can't tell me that we aren't a much better team now. You can't tell me that there is a doubt in your mind that we would beat them if we played them again at this point in the season.
Long story short...we are much better now than we were then and you are a great team now as you have been all season. So given that Bama and LSU are playing pretty even football NOW, then if we pull off a win then we should be ranked higher.
I think you'd have to agree that is a pretty fair assessment.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:38 am to cas4t
I guess what I'm saying is that personally I'd favor a team that ripped off ten straight wins vs. a team that lost the last game of the season. However that may just be the past precedents talking
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:39 am to Ryan3232
On sports radio this morning, callers from the Big 12 and Big Ten were bent out of shape about Bama at #4. It doesnt matter at this point, we play each other Saturday and if LSU wins, Bama is out of the playoff equation. If they win, we are going to fall out. They will only have 1 sec team in the top 4 when its all said and done.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:40 am to Big Balls
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Why in the blue hell would you put a 1 loss team in when you didn't have to. Stirring up fans and media is the only reason I can think of.
Maybe they were did what they were charged with doing in the beginning...putting the 4 best teams in their opinion in the top 4 spots of the poll regardless of what their record is.
Do you feel like Miami is a better team than Duke because the refs happened to miss 99 penalties on a single play?
Teams change week to week as does the committees' opinions on where different teams should be ranked. If the SEC produces a 1 loss conference champion, do you think an undefeated team out of the BIG 12 is better than that team just by not having lost a game. By your rationale, Toledo should have a playoff birth if they're undefeated at the end of the year. Think about how stupid that sounds.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:42 am to Big Balls
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Long story short...we are much better now than we were then and you are a great team now as you have been all season
I understand this. But it's not the rest of CFB's fault that Bama had to get their shite together. And they shouldn't be rewarded for losing early.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:44 am to flomacanes
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Maybe they were did what they were charged with doing in the beginning...putting the 4 best teams in their opinion in the top 4 spots of the poll regardless of what their record is.
this is not how the CFP has been designed-at all.
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Do you feel like Miami is a better team than Duke because the refs happened to miss 99 penalties on a single play?
this is completely irrelevant in so many ways.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:47 am to flomacanes
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Maybe they were did what they were charged with doing in the beginning...putting the 4 best teams in their opinion in the top 4 spots of the poll regardless of what their record is.
I could agree with this and its the only logical thing that anyone has come up with to justify this.
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Do you feel like Miami is a better team than Duke because the refs happened to miss 99 penalties on a single play?
No. Irrelevant.
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Teams change week to week as does the committees' opinions on where different teams should be ranked. If the SEC produces a 1 loss conference champion, do you think an undefeated team out of the BIG 12 is better than that team just by not having lost a game. By your rationale, Toledo should have a playoff birth if they're undefeated at the end of the year. Think about how stupid that sounds.
I never said all undefeated teams were equal. Ohio State and Iowa damn sure aren't. But that's not my point. I'm just saying that a one loss Bama team doesn't have the justification to sit in the top 4 just yet. If we win this weekend and we had been put here, I would be arguing to high heaven about how much we deserved our playoff berth.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:52 am to cas4t
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But it's not the rest of CFB's fault that Bama had to get their shite together. And they shouldn't be rewarded for losing early.
Don't think of it from a "losing early" standpoint. Its about ranking the best teams in college football as of each selection weekend. My point is that in my opinion, Alabama should not be given that spot this past weekend. But, if we win Saturday, I believe we are totally justified in being inth eplayoffs and ranked ahead of LSU.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:54 am to Big Balls
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wins out the rest of the year, and even if they miss the SEC Champ game they should raise high hell if they aren't in the playoff bracket
I think you would see some upset fans, but, I wouldn't be. You don't win the SEC, you shouldn't be in.
I was against Bama being in and would be against it in the future.
And I agree with your second point. Why would they do that to themselves. It is just bad precedence.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:55 am to Big Balls
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Its about ranking the best teams in college football as of each selection weekend
correct but it's not based off of the eye test, or how much they've progressed, etc. It's based off of quality of wins and quality of losses and SOS. So we are in agreement that Bama does not belong in the top 4, since their 1 loss was a 5 TO loss to what turned out to be a not so good Ole Miss.
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But, if we win Saturday, I believe we are totally justified in being inth eplayoffs and ranked ahead of LSU
agreed, sorta. Okla State plays a ranked TCU. If TCU wins , they have an argument IMO as they would be undefeated. I also think if Michigan State blows out Oregon State, then they have an argument. Baylor still needs a good win though.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 10:58 am
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