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re: If LSU hires Cam Cameron as our OC, how would you rate that hire?
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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On the other hand it's hard to look at how he went out in Baltimore and feel good about it.
Not wanting to give the ball to RR more? I kinda think that's what we need.
Develop a QB (and we have Mett plus 2 coming in that will be good one's).
Balanced O
I'll take it
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:38 pm to bigpapamac
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The interesting thing about Les Miles' reputation is how it has changed over the last decade. At Ok State and for the first few years at LSU he was not regarded as the "pound the rock" guy he is now considered to have always been
What Les did a decade ago in a different league isn't very relevant. What he's done at LSU is, and he's always been a "pound the rock" guy.
He has just not run the same type of offense at LSU from year to year.
Compare this
2007
or this
2006
with this
2010
or this
2011
2006/2007 are very different in their philosophies from 2010/2011
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:42 pm to lsusteve1
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Not wanting to give the ball to RR more? I kinda think that's what we need.
Did you feel that way when it was 2nd and 3 against Clemson and a first down wins the game and we don't run it on 2nd or 3rd down?
It's not about run/pass ratio as much as it's about the predictability and the scheme itself.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Did you feel that way when it was 2nd and 3 against Clemson and a first down wins the game and we don't run it on 2nd or 3rd down?
Situational football.....of course it doesn't apply to all scenarios.
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It's not about run/pass ratio as much as it's about the predictability and the scheme itself.
Which comes back to being balanced. Play action and develop a QB.
Do this and LSU will be tough to beat.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The Ravens were 9-2 when Cameron was let go, I wouldn't exactly say he was shitting the bed.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:51 pm to tigerfan4120
Look I'm not saying its a bad hire, without question it's an upgrade. I'm just not ready to pronounce him to be the Chavis of the offense just yet.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:16 pm to UAFanFromNOLA
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He didn't want to put the ball in the hands of his best player in Ray Rice, so I don't think he is that good.
They threw the ball to win in the playoffs and the superbowl, rice really didn't do shite. Which is what he wanted to do in the first place, but everyone wanted Ray to touch the ball more. We see how that worked out..This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:21 pm to molsusports
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He has just not run the same type of offense at LSU from year to year.
Much has to do with personnel, specifically who the QB is. 2005-2007 we had Jamarcus and Matt. If RP hadn't hosed up we would have seen a continuation of the same type O. It was attempted I think with Lee, but he turned out to be a pic machine. The staff realized JJ had no pocket presence but at a certain point he had to be put in. This year Miles demonstrated every game he wanted to pass more. For a variety of reasons it wasn't very successful but the idea of 'pound the rock' has more to do with QB development/performance than anything. As a sidenote, I'm not piling on Lee/JJ. The QB development under Miles has been generally poor of late and unless it improves I'm afraid we'll be on the sidelines watching the Saban train go by, along with everyone else. JMO.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:23 pm to TigerBait2008
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They threw the ball to win in the playoffs
Yep, and Boldin was damn near unstoppable. The whole stadium would know the ball was going to him and it didn't matter.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:27 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
i'd like to add that, minus his rookie season, Rice had over 250 carries and 1100 yards every year. over 1300 yards twice. so this whole "not giving Rice the ball" crap is a bit misleading.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:31 pm to Bernie Moore
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Bernie Moore
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Tommy Lee's on Line 1. He wants to talk to you about never getting hot women as a member of the band.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Look I'm not saying its a bad hire, without question it's an upgrade. I'm just not ready to pronounce him to be the Chavis of the offense just yet.
Nor am I
I've heard his biggest issue with the Ravens and Harbaugh was getting the plays in quicker.
I think LSU will thrive under CC. We shall, hopefully, see soon.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:45 pm to lsusteve1
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I think LSU will thrive under CC. We shall, hopefully, see soon.
I think it is worth a shot. They know each other from Michigan days. Stud really needs to just stick with OL, Krag can take a non coaching position at LSU. If a hire is coming maybe it should have been done earlier but by and large the recruits we have in place will be fine, just need proper development. Give CC 3 years as a college OC so he make his case to be a HC at a big time program one day.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:02 pm to tigerfan4120
Yeah, some of the comments on here are cracking me up. A "meh" for fricking Cam Cameron??? lol
Cam Cameron would easily be the most highly regarded OC in the SEC upon his hire. What has LSU been missing? A little offense. What do you do? You bring in an experienced, successful OC that will get the job jone (it doesn't hurt that it's someone that Miles will trust handing over the reigns of the O). Cam Cameron is a grandslam hire for LSU, and any non-LSU fan that claims otherwise is simply put: scared and/or uninformed.
Is it possible it doesn't work out on the field? Sure. But - on paper - Cam Cameron as LSU's OC under Miles is an amazing hire.
Cam Cameron would easily be the most highly regarded OC in the SEC upon his hire. What has LSU been missing? A little offense. What do you do? You bring in an experienced, successful OC that will get the job jone (it doesn't hurt that it's someone that Miles will trust handing over the reigns of the O). Cam Cameron is a grandslam hire for LSU, and any non-LSU fan that claims otherwise is simply put: scared and/or uninformed.
Is it possible it doesn't work out on the field? Sure. But - on paper - Cam Cameron as LSU's OC under Miles is an amazing hire.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
In 11 seasons as an NFL OC/HC he has had two top-10 offenses.
Not worried.
Not worried.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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In 11 seasons as an NFL OC/HC he has had two top-10 offenses.
CC is one of the winningest offensive coordinators in NFL history FWIW.
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Not worried.
You shouldn't be. LSU wins with Defense and ST. Offense - if it ever comes to fruition - is just lagniappe anyway. If CC gets the O on track, we go from winning 11 games a year to 12-13 games a year. If he doesn't get the O on track, we continue winning 10-11 games a year and competing for titles periodically. Either way, LSU isn't built on offense and never will be, so it'd be silly to get "worried" over offensive changes at LSU.
This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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In 11 seasons as an NFL OC/HC he has had two top-10 offenses.
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In his 11 seasons as an NFL head coach or offensive coordinator, Cameron’s offenses led the NFL in points once, finished among the top five on three occasions (1st, 3rd, and 5th), and finished in the top half of the NFL nine times
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:08 pm to heartbreakTiger
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but i highly doubt its happening. les isn't going to get rid of krags or stud.
Dude I love how all the people close to the program say its happening yet you retards still post this stuff.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:16 pm to gatordmb89
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Offense hasn't changed much/if at all since Les became HC.
So clueless it's laughable.
Posted on 2/5/13 at 9:33 pm to TheCaterpillar
I would say,
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