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re: If Bama was Healthy in CFB Final!

Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:35 am to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:35 am to
Not a melt at all. I'm just not ready to crown the UGA dynasty when they've beaten Alabama one time since 2008 and that took a perfect storm occurring for it to happen.

It's not like we don't know how things would turn out if Bama had both those players, we do. The fact that UGA is not the defending conference champions is proof of that.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4398 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:37 am to
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Let's set the injury talk aside for a second. Is there anyone that can make a case for Georgia in the playoffs at all had Okie State made one more yard and scored to win their conference? Especially after what happened in Atlanta?

Georgia fans like to talk loud and say they were in but...you were not.

All the other contenders had equal or better records. They were all conference champions, UGA was not.

They all had better wins than Georgia did. There really would not have been a justification at that point for Georgia to have been anywhere but Bourbon Street. They caught a break, the first of many.


First... UGA was 3rd, not 4th in the playoff ranking. Cincy was the team on the bubble, not UGA.

Second... OkSU would be 12-1 with a loss to Iowa State. UGA would have been 12-1 with a loss to Bama. Thinking OkSU would have gotten the spot is kind of silly.

Third... the game was over well before the SECCG game started. At gametime, UGA knew they were in.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4398 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:40 am to
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It's not like we don't know how things would turn out if Bama had both those players, we do. The fact that UGA is not the defending conference champions is proof of that.


UGA wouldn't have played the game the same way had it mattered for them to make the playoffs. Most obviously, if UGA felt they needed to win the game to make the playoffs, they'd have put their better deep passer, JT Daniels, in the game after Stet's picks put them in a big hole.

Why didn't they?

Because they felt Stet was the better QB going forward in the playoff and didn't want to damage his confidence by pulling him. It wasn't a must win game for UGA, so Kirby played the long game. And stet played much better in the second game (which had nothing to do with Bama WR's).
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23762 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:40 am to
Not silly at all. Who at that point had UGA beaten worth a damn? What conference did they win?

You are projecting how things actually turned out, not how they might have fallen with a Okie State win.

HOW does that committee keep Cincy out?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4398 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:48 am to
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Not silly at all. Who at that point had UGA beaten worth a damn? What conference did they win?

You are projecting how things actually turned out, not how they might have fallen with a Okie State win.

HOW does that committee keep Cincy out?


To answer your questions in order:

1 - UGA had beaten 3 top 25 teams based on pre-bowl polls. OkSU would have beaten 3 as well (actually 2, but it would have been Baylor twice). UGA would have a much better loss and a much higher margin on their victories. It's very unlikely it would have mattered.

2 - The committee WANTED to keep Cincy out. The problem is that because OkSU lost, the only available 1-loss team to put in would have been ND... who Cincy beat head to head. They had no other option. Had OkSU been an option, they ABSOLUTELY would have dropped Cincy in favor of OkSU for the 4th spot.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6654 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 9:48 am to
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Good grief...im a Bama fan too man but damn some of you have got to let this go. UGA won the championship


Ditto.

UGA won, it is another year. We have Coach Saban who has guided Alabama to 6 NC during his time (and has lost a few along the way)

This Alabama team will win the NC, there is not another team to stop them.

Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
3592 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:00 am to
Why? Why is that the constant response from Bammers and Dawgs? Such a pussy response.
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
1398 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:12 am to
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I'm just not ready to crown the UGA dynasty


Neither is the average Georgia fan. We won a championship. We look good this year. That's it. We're nowhere near the dynasty level. Any Georgia fan who tells you otherwise is a clown.
It's also clownish to keep repeating the "we wudda won if" theories. No one cares about the "ifs" The game is over. 33-18. Accept it.
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
1398 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:16 am to
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UGA won, it is another year. We have Coach Saban who has guided Alabama to 6 NC during his time (and has lost a few along the way)


Thank goodness for reasonable Alabama fans. I truly believe this is the attitude of the majority of Bama fans. The pesky little excuse makers need to be swatted like mosquitoes.

Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6856 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:19 am to
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inebaum made it sound like Georgia is the greatest team ever



And we know that is wrong because LSU 2019 was the greatest team ever. Just compare the wins against the strength of schedule and it clearly shows who was the greatest team.

Now about you being upset, I get it but let them have their glory. You will get yours when you beat them in SEC champ.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17216 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:22 am to
Fresh new topic never discussed before
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2785 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:31 am to
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. Is there anyone that can make a case for Georgia in the playoffs at all had Okie State made one more yard and scored to win their conference? Especially after what happened in Atlanta?


Lol I hate UGA and it would’ve been a complete farce if they were left out of the playoffs. They had the best statistical defense in the country, played better competition than Oklahoma State, destroyed everyone they played up until Alabama, and beat every team that Alabama beat by significantly more. UGA destroyed Auburn, Arkansas, and Florida by a point differential of + 88. Bama barely beat all 3 of those teams.

College is closer to the NFL than ever before. Teams lose to other teams and then beat the same team in the playoffs ALL THE TIME. Teams get blown out in the NFL and then beat that same team in the same Season ALL THE TIME. It’s one of the reasons why you’re seeing more and more big time non conference games. You have to compare resumes now bc what are you going to compare a blowout win over Ball State or a close loss to Powerhouse? It’s actually very simple, Bama fans just can’t get their heads out of their arse.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2785 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:36 am to
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So yes, I think Bama wins had they not gotten injured. I think the game would then be very similar to the one in Atlanta.


Hard to say. NFL teams get blown out and then beat the same teams down the road. If you actually watch the game and are able to read the defense, UGA player extremely soft zone and didn’t blitz a lot the first game. A very bad game plan.

In the second game in Indianapolis, they played Bama how Auburn played Bama and brought constant pressure. Now, it’s all hypothetical bc the receivers were out. But far too many college football fans still believe in transitive property. The game isn’t played in a telephone booth. There are different outcomes in different games.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:36 am to
Pre excuse excuse making from an Excuse Factory.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33077 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:33 pm to
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HOW does that committee keep Cincy out?


They have eyes and aren’t total idiots like you are.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:41 pm to
We’d have whipped your arse even worse. We were just playing with you in the SECCG. We’ve watched Bama enough to know that you don’t even have to PLAY in the SECCG to win the NC.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
4755 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:43 pm to
What good team has Ga faced? What good defense has Ga faced?
People have a short memory. Last year everyone thought Ga was unbeatable until they got their butts kicked by 17 pts. Bama led in the 4th qtr against Ga in the Natty without their two top receivers and cornerbacks.

They play patsies the next several weeks. When they curb stomp Tenn, Fla, MSU, and Kentuck I might change my mind. Right now I ain't buying it.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:45 pm to
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RammerJammer28

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33077 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:47 pm to
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What good team has Ga faced? What good defense has Ga faced?


Oregon is ranked in the middle of the top 25.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6654 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Thank goodness for reasonable Alabama fans. I truly believe this is the attitude of the majority of Bama fans. The pesky little excuse makers need to be swatted like mosquitoes.


Injuries are part of the game. Some of the best Alabama teams ever did not win the NC, losing the CG (2016 comes to mind)
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