re: If a mediocre program land 5* kids every year like clockwork...

Calm down, Slick.

You do know your good ol Cocks have been on probation more and more recently than Clemson, right? As in the 11th most penalized program all time? Like just came off probation 3 years ago? Clemson hasn't been penalized in 35 years.

I wouldn't call a two year bowl ban and two years of probation massive, either. Our buddies in Chapel Hill managed to stick us with another year of no bowling, but that wasn't from the NCAA. Also won the ACC both of those years (82 and 83), but our pals don't let us claim those, either.

In summary, Clemson has 3 total years of probation and 2 years bowl ban.
SCjr has 8 total years of probation and 2 years of no bowls (talk about beating a dead horse).

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didn't win shite for over a decade

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Please share with us all the decades SCjr has been great and won a bunch of trophies and stuff. Or good. Or not sucked arse.

All that cheatin, and still a laughing stock. Dang.