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re: I found this interesting for the top 32 drafted players and their
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:01 pm to Tennessee Jed
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:01 pm to Tennessee Jed
There are way more 2s and 3s so I don't take anything from this thread. Needs to be averaged for accuracy
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:11 pm to Big Fat
If the NFL gets only the best talent, shouldn't all these players drafted be re-evaluated to 5*'s?
Is this a moral victory that somehow we can take advantage of?
Is this a moral victory that somehow we can take advantage of?
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:12 pm to Big Fat
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There are way more 2s and 3s so I don't take anything from this thread. Needs to be averaged for accuracy
I posted the percentages on page 3.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:16 pm to sugatowng
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If the NFL gets only the best talent, shouldn't all these players drafted be re-evaluated to 5*'s?
That makes no sense. We're not discounting the possibility that a 2 star can be a diamond in the rough, its just a very small possibility. Let's try again.
The odds of a five star being drafted: 40-48%
The odds of a four star being drafted: 9-11%
The odds of a three star being drafted: 3%
The odds of a two star being drafted: Less than 1%.
So the odds of a two star being a diamond in the rough are less than one percent. A four star is 9-11 times more likely to pan out than a two star and a five star is 40-48 times more likely to pan out than a two star. Get it?
This post was edited on 4/23/10 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:19 pm to secfan123
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secfan123
obviously I should have used the :sarcasm: tag
my bad
Posted on 4/23/10 at 2:42 pm to sugatowng
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obviously I should have used the :sarcasm: tag
My apologies
Posted on 4/23/10 at 4:11 pm to sugatowng
The 2* or 3* ranking doesn't mean the player doesn't have potential or upside, it's only a gauge to how prepared they are to come into a D1 program and make an immediate impact.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 5:13 pm to thebearisdead
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it's only a gauge to how prepared they are to come into a D1 program and make an immediate impact.
define immediate...also, you can't just look at the star but by the position by his name not to mention the conference in which the LOI is signed
Posted on 4/23/10 at 5:14 pm to roadGator
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Hey, hey, hey, leave UF fans out of this. We are just
I can't believe this thread is still going on but the jort wearing "football expert" that I was referring to just happens to reside in Arkansas. Razorback Fans know who I'm talking about.
As far as my original post is concerned, I wasn’t even trying to make a case for Petrino's evaluation prowess because I don't think the Hogs have signed many, if any, two star recruits since he has been at Arkansas unless it has been a kicker and Petrino's recruiting record needs no defense.
I just found it interesting that with all the hoopla surrounding recruiting rankings the "recruiting experts", who bilk fans out of hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, still missed on 5 first round NFL draft choices by ranking these players as 2 star recruits coming out of high school. For some reason the Confederates and a couple of Bama wannabes tried to make my post as a “defense of Petrino’s recruiting” post. I never even mentioned the Hogs or Petrino’s recruiting in my post.
Hell any numbskull can look at the very elite players and give them 5 stars but it takes real evaluation and ability to develop “2 star” recruits into 1st round NFL picks. Unless I missed something none of the 2 star recruits taken in the 1st round were Hogs so this post WAS NOT about the Hogs. Kudos to the players and their coaches who saw potential in them and help develop them into 1st round picks.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 5:22 pm to thebearisdead
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Haha.. yeah I've got family from Arkansas.. they talk about how great it is, yet they all moved to AL to live and work.. it's like they live in their own little world.
Just about as stupid of a post I've read in a while. So, nobody moves to Arkansas? Is that your point? Well, I guess I’ll just have to go tell my next door neighbor who is a LSU Fan but loves living in NWA, and the Georgia, Kentucky, Bama, and USC fans that live down the street that them moving to NWA is just a figment of their imagination. What a dumb arse statement!
Apparently, you live in your own little make-believe world because you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. You need to get our more because it just might help educate you, if that's possible.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 5:25 pm to Choctaw Hog
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it takes real evaluation and ability to develop “2 star” recruits into 1st round NFL picks
And alot of luck and mother nature intervening in the ensuing 4 years. There's still less than a 1% chance a 2 star makes it to the pros.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 6:35 pm to secfan123
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And alot of luck and mother nature intervening in the ensuing 4 years. There's still less than a 1% chance a 2 star makes it to the pros.
Don't disagree at all but I think the real story line in my original post is that 5 players who the "recruiting experts" labeled as not really good enough to even play top level D-1 football much less the NFL, somehow proved the experts wrong. I tend to think that most of the overlooked high school players had the talent to begin with they just didn’t get the exposure as some others.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 6:54 pm to Choctaw Hog
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Don't disagree at all but I think the real story line in my original post is that 5 players who the "recruiting experts" labeled as not really good enough to even play top level D-1 football much less the NFL, somehow proved the experts wrong. I tend to think that most of the overlooked high school players had the talent to begin with they just didn’t get the exposure as some others.
They missed a few out of 1600 2 stars- think about that for a minute. They hit a hell of alot more than miss.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 6:54 pm to Choctaw Hog
LOL I'm around my family every week and all I hear is the sunshine they pump towards Arkansas.. they are different about state pride than any group of people I've met. I take it I struck a nerve by reading your post.. oh well it happens..
Posted on 4/23/10 at 6:58 pm to Tennessee Jed
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How about this, break down the percentage chance of a five star going in the first round as opposed to a three star.
There are more two and three stars than four and five stars.
Posted on 4/23/10 at 7:04 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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There are more two and three stars than four and five stars.
but there are 2,300-2,600 two and three stars every year, as opposed to 300-355 four and five stars. Again, the odds for each to get drafted
2 stars- less than 1 percent
3 stars- 3.6 percent
4 stars- 9-11 percent
5 stars- 40-48 percent
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