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re: How would you rank the offensive minds of the SEC West?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:34 pm to Quicksilver
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:34 pm to Quicksilver
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum
outside of linking his wiki page, highlights include WR coach at Purdue when Brees was there, OC at OU during their best ever offensive run 03-08 and of course UofH...
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:35 pm to Mullen3:16
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Yeah Kingsbury was nothing but a pawn. I have mad respect for Sumlin.
Yeah, it's not like Sumlin groomed Holgerson, either.
Crazy how he just keeps acquiring the game's best OCs--great way to disguise one's own deficiencies, would you agree?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:36 pm to DWag215
Everyone picks up something from someone else. Sumlin is an excellent pupil, but given a choice, I'd take the godfather of that offense, Leach.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:37 pm to AgroAmerican
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outside of linking his wiki page, highlights include WR coach at Purdue when Brees was there, OC at OU during their best ever offensive run 03-08 and of course UofH...
This. Although I am very curious what Sumlin can do as a head coach without a very athletic and "gamer" QB like Case and Johnny, the one year at UH without Keenum wasn't exactly his fault at all. You can only morph your offense so much to your talent and you are kind of handcuffed when your QB has no talent.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:44 pm to SwayzeBalla
No balla. The guy that was the winningest OC in the NFL the last five seasons, '08 through '12.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:45 pm to 167back
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The guy that was the winningest OC in the NFL the last five seasons, '08 through '12.
This is implying that the Ravens won because of their offense.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:47 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
This year: Ravens 7th in ypg 8th best in yards given up. Sounds balanced to me, no? That was in the playoffs btw. Let me check the full season stats.
16th on offense 17th in defense.
16th on offense 17th in defense.
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:50 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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This is implying that the Ravens won because of their offense.
Well the game that got Cam fired was the Redskins game last year. A game that went to OT where their DEFENSE couldn't hold on. In fact, the Raven's offense was statistically better with Cam. They went down in almost every category once he left.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:52 pm to Tigerdew
All I know is Saban was fired from the Dolphins and no one thought that meant he couldn't coach defense. Sean Payton had playcalling duties taken from him. No one knows how it will turn out, but him being fired is fun for flames, but he is more than capable of coaching a college offense.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:56 pm to Tigerdew
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet?
On this board the answer will obviously be "No". The correct answer for the outside world is "You're not the only one, but you're in a very small minority".
The Keenum-less UH year was a disaster, but also ignores that UH had horrendous injury problems that year and ended up starting their 4th-string QB.
I'm pretty sure all Aggies are very happy to have him.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:57 pm to Mullen3:16
Rank in terms of what? Production? Creativity? Ingenuity?
Because we're missing a serious name on that list if we're referring to productivity and success.
Because we're missing a serious name on that list if we're referring to productivity and success.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:58 pm to Mullen3:16
Nuss does a solid job, but last year he passed entirely too much considering he had the best oline in the country. I remember watching Bama games and wondering why the hell he would try to air it out after watching Bama run it down the opposition's throat. He was too keen to go away from what was working.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:00 pm to therick711
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but he is more than capable of coaching a college offense
And, more importantly, game planning against a college defense.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:00 pm to therick711
you mean hal mumme?
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:01 pm to WestCoastAg
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you mean hal mumme?
I consider him the father. Try to keep up. The spread pass attack family tree is linked directly on the home page, so you don't have to go far.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:02 pm to therick711
misunderstood what you were trying to say
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:06 pm to therick711
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All I know is Saban was fired from the Dolphins and no one thought that meant he couldn't coach defense.
Saban was not fired from the Dolphins
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:07 pm to therick711
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All I know is Saban was fired from the Dolphins and no one thought that meant he couldn't coach defense.
Saban was not fired from the Dolphins
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:09 pm to UMRealist
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Saban was not fired from the Dolphins
Right. He did bail out of that job. If you don't think that counts as a constructive firing after he completely fricked that roster and destroyed any chance of a quick turnaround, good on you.
Posted on 4/9/13 at 2:10 pm to therick711
Still wasn't fired.
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