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re: How would legalizing Pot affect college football players?

Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:41 pm to
Why can 18 year olds be considered responsible enough to vote for President, join the military and fight in a war for us, open credit accounts, buy a home, get married, buy cigarettes, but not buy a drink?
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 1:43 pm
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:42 pm to
The father of a young woman in my church has been a major supporter and seeking legislation to make pot legal. The one thing is, once you meet him you do see the effects of long term, much use of marijuana. I have mixed feelings about this.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:43 pm to
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Why can 18 year olds be considered responsible enough to vote for President, join the military and fight in a war for us, open credit accounts, buy a home, get married, but not buy a drink?


I've gotta be honest. I didn't think this thread would last until Page 2 without this exact post.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:43 pm to
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Why can 18 year olds be considered responsible enough to vote for President, join the military and fight in a war for us, open credit accounts, buy a home, get married, buy cigarettes, but not buy a drink?


I've always questioned that myself.
Posted by harper6464
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:45 pm to
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but not buy a drink?


i'd always heard there was a physiological reason for this. something to do with the brains physical development.

if thats the case its reasonable.
Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
3668 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:46 pm to
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Why can 18 year olds be considered responsible enough to vote for President, join the military and fight in a war for us, open credit accounts, buy a home, get married, buy cigarettes, but not buy a drink?


Because LA would lose out on tens of millions each year if we chose to do that.

(Federal govt. + MADD = 21 y/o drinkers)
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 1:48 pm to
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i'd always heard there was a physiological reason for this. something to do with the brains physical development.


Well, if the brain is not fully developed, then why should they be in the military, open bank accounts and be allowed to marry or even allowed to have sex?
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:01 pm to
If I'm not mistaken, the current push isn't even for blanket legalization of marijuana. Its just for small amounts. The dealers moving large quantities would still be prosecuted as they are now.

The number one reason none of these proposals will ever happen, even though they make a lot of sense, is money. The fines, court costs, confiscated property, etc that the state rakes in busting small fry people with weed is more addictive than pot could ever be.
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 2:03 pm
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10595 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:02 pm to
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Well, if the brain is not fully developed, then why should they be in the military, open bank accounts and be allowed to marry or even allowed to have sex?


BOOM!
Posted by SECBengal
Purple and Gold
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:28 pm to
make betting lines more volatile
Posted by LSUDav7
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:30 pm to
Gateway Drug
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:34 pm to
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Gateway Drug


bullshite.

If pot is a gateway drug, so is alcohol.
Posted by harper6464
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
8121 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:38 pm to
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bullshite.

If pot is a gateway drug, so is alcohol.


alcohol is THE gateway drug
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:41 pm to
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If pot is a gateway drug, so is alcohol.


I'm with you on this. I've never been a believer in the "Gateway Drug" premise. How many hardcore drug users smoked tobacco before they smoked weed? How about drank a beer? A person who is going to do an escalating spiral of drugs is probably going to do that regardless of the legality of marijuana.
I know people who smoke the sticky regularly, and have never done anything harder. Smoking weed doesn't MAKE someone think "Hey, I'll try that crystal meth now". Addictive personalities/tendenies will find SOMETHING to get hooked on, whether it be gambling, drinking, or f*@king,...

EDIT: Or TigerDroppings...
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 2:44 pm
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:44 pm to
why would uncle sam legalize pot when they can't figure out a way to effectively tax it ? much less lost revenue from the court systems (i.e. fines, seizures )
Posted by Port City
Baton Rouge/Shreveport
Member since Jan 2007
3668 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:47 pm to
I don't think people actually use the 'gateway drug' argument anymore, do they?

One of the dumbest things I was told when I was in DARE.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 2:55 pm to
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why would uncle sam legalize pot when they can't figure out a way to effectively tax it ? much less lost revenue from the court systems (i.e. fines, seizures )


I do realize the difficulties there. It just grows too damn easy. For most people though, I'd think the ease of being able to go to the store and get the strain you want would make a lot of people not do it. Not to metion since so much of the cost of weed is wrapped up in it being illegal, there would be much less of an incentive to grow it to sell on the black market.

The only problem would be possible lost revenue from people growing it for personal use. I'm too lazy/have other things to do than care for a bunch of pot plants. I would assume the vast majority are like me.

So my point, the tax situation isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:01 pm to
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Why can 18 year olds be considered responsible enough to vote for President, join the military and fight in a war for us, open credit accounts, buy a home, get married, buy cigarettes, but not buy a drink?



I may be wrong, but I heard that 18 yr olds can buy and consume alcohol as long as it is on base?
Posted by GatorBuc
MD
Member since Jul 2008
4 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:14 pm to
I don't see an issue if laws apply the same as alcohol. Unless your Maurice Clarett and drinking a bottle of grey goose during practice I don't see a problem here.
Posted by harper6464
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
8121 posts
Posted on 7/31/08 at 3:15 pm to
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I may be wrong but I heard that 18 yr olds can buy and consume alcohol as long as it is on base?


you are in fact wrong.
This post was edited on 7/31/08 at 3:16 pm
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