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re: How was the Alabama player not ejected?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:02 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:02 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What rules are those? The guy wasnt defenseless. His defense should have been to call a fair catch. He didnt, and got popped. Thats on him.
Can a receiver call fair catch to avoid a defensive back from launching to take out his head?
Nope.
Neither could the guy going for the kickoff.
He was defenseless. It doesn't matter the scenario. He was going to catch the ball and the Bama player launched to deliver a big hit. That's targeting.
They'd call it against a player launching at a running back running up the middle. They'd call it if they launched while blitzing at an offensive tackle. They'd call it on the punter if he ran down after his punt to launch at a punt return blocker.
If you launch and hit the head area, no matter the scenario, it's targeting.
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:03 pm to StringedInstruments
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He was going to catch the ball
The ball had already bounced inbounds. It's not the defenses responsibility to let the opposing team have unfettered access to a live ball. And I've already posted a youtube that clearly showed it was not head to head contact.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:05 pm to StringedInstruments
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Neither could the guy going for the kickoff.
wtf? Of course he could have. You clearly don't know the rules.
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He was defenseless. It doesn't matter the scenario. He was going to catch the ball and the Bama player launched to deliver a big hit. That's targeting.
So if that play had have been an onside kick, should it be targeting? It was a live ball. Our player was going for it.
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They'd call it against a player launching at a running back running up the middle. They'd call it if they launched while blitzing at an offensive tackle. They'd call it on the punter if he ran down after his punt to launch at a punt return blocker.
and these are all COMPLETELY different situations. Your argument is abysmal.
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If you launch and hit the head area, no matter the scenario, it's targeting.
lol
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:07 pm to StringedInstruments
Here's a different angle on it.
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You can see the ball bounce around the 13/14 yd line even better in this youtube vid
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You can see the ball bounce around the 13/14 yd line even better in this youtube vid
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:07 pm to StringedInstruments
They wouldn't call it if the ball was rolling around on the ground for anyone to recover. That's what happened here. Essentially. It was free for the taking. A live ball . He made sure the St player didn't pick it up
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:10 pm to StringedInstruments
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He was going to catch the ball and the Bama player launched to deliver a big hit. That's targeting.
The ball was in play on what was basically an onside kick. You have every right to level the player who is going for the ball in an attempt to jar it loose. It happens all the freaking time on that play.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:13 pm to RollTide1987
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The ball was in play on what was basically an onside kick. You have every right to level the player who is going for the ball in an attempt to jar it loose. It happens all the freaking time on that play.
Ok so how do you feel about a receiver who is not down and has caught the ball for a couple seconds and is trying to get loose from another tackler?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:14 pm to Adam Banks
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how do you feel about a receiver who is not down and has caught the ball for a couple seconds and is trying to get loose from another tackler
I feel the guy's a winner and is someone a certain team will be glad is gone after this season.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:15 pm to Adam Banks
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Ok so how do you feel about a receiver who is not down and has caught the ball for a couple seconds and is trying to get loose from another tackler?
I personally think the targeting penalty is bullshite. They wear helmets for a reason.
And the LSU player wasn't called for targeting on Norwood...he was hit with unnecessary roughness.
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:15 pm to LSUCOCK
Get over it this is football, glad that wasn't called for targeting.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:18 pm to LSUCOCK
Not targeting. I do wish they would have ejected him though. It wouldn't have affected the game at all in any way, and it wouldn't affect the game next week either.
But then you children wouldn't be able to complain about it.
But then you children wouldn't be able to complain about it.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:19 pm to Alahunter
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The ball had already bounced inbounds. It's not the defenses responsibility to let the opposing team have unfettered access to a live ball. And I've already posted a youtube that clearly showed it was not head to head contact.
Good lord man you are delusional trying to defend the hit. He hit him as the ball got to him and it was clearly helmet to helmet. It doesn't matter since it wasn't called but its amazing how Bama fans will defend these kind of plays.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:21 pm to OptimusDawg
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Good lord man you are delusional trying to defend the hit.
How are we delusional when its you guys that don't understand the rules?
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He hit him as the ball got to him and it was clearly helmet to helmet. It doesn't matter since it wasn't called but its amazing how Bama fans will defend these kind of plays.
Why is it amazing that we defend perfectly legal plays? IT WAS A frickING KICKOFF. THE BALL WAS LIVE. How is that so hard to comprehend?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:23 pm to OptimusDawg
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He hit him as the ball got to him and it was clearly helmet to helmet
That doesn't matter on a kickoff. On a punt the ball is not in play until it touches a player. On a kickoff, the ball is in play once it goes 10 yards.
He could have destroyed him BEFORE the ball got to him and it would have been just as legal.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:36 pm to RollTide1987
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Defenseless Player definition. (2-27-14) E a. A player in the act of or j ust after throwing a pass.
b. A receiver attempting to catch a pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
c. A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
d. A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick.
e. A player on the ground at the end of a play .
f. A player obviously out of the play.
Sounds like you guys dont know the definition of the rules.
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Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:39 pm to RollTide1987
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And the LSU player wasn't called for targeting on Norwood...he was hit with unnecessary roughness.
So you dont agree with your brethren that it was targeting?
And you agree with an unnecessary roughness for simply tackling a guy?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:41 pm to OptimusDawg
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d. A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick.
The ball had bounced. It was an onside kick at that point. Why wasn't Oregon flagged when they wiped out that Stanford player when he was trying to recover an onside kick?
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:43 pm to Adam Banks
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So you dont agree with your brethren that it was targeting?
If you go by the definition of the rule, it was targeting. He wasn't on the ground but it was very obvious he wasn't going anywhere. That made him defenseless as per the rule. It's a dumb rule anyway. There's a reason why we invented helmets for this game.
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And you agree with an unnecessary roughness for simply tackling a guy?
He hit him with the crown of his helmet. He's lucky he wasn't ejected. I don't believe a flag should have been thrown but that's just me.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:44 pm to RollTide1987
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This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:45 pm to OptimusDawg
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A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick.
Our guy was trying to recover the kick too. The guy should have called a fair catch. He paid the price. His fault.
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