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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:44 pm to bona fide
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LSU..... soon
well, this.
But not in the way you meant it.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:51 pm to JohnZeroQ
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That article painted a solid picture
1925: Leaves out the fact that Dartmouth's national championship selectors (Parke H. Davis and Dickinson) also awarded their national championships retroactively.
1926: Stanford is the only other team to lay claim to a piece of the national championship in 1926. Alabama and Stanford played each other to a 7-7 tie in the Rose Bowl. Their title was likewise awarded retroactively.
1930: I find it interesting that the author ridicules Alabama for using Parke H. Davis's system to claim their title when, in 1925, he completely ignores Dartmouth using it to claim their national title. Hypocrisy at its finest.
1934: Parke H. Davis was likewise a fan who used math to retroactively award national titles to teams like 1925 Dartmouth. Yet when another fan does it for Alabama (in this case Dunkel) it's a bogus national title claim.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:53 pm to RollTide1987
Honestly, I think if Acheson (sp?) had not included that insane 1941 "title" very little of this retroactive talk and questioning it would take place.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:55 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Honestly, I think if Acheson (sp?) had not included that insane 1941 "title" very little of this retroactive talk and questioning it would take place.
I 100% agree. I think he added 1941 because he knew he couldn't legitimately claim 1966 or 1977 - even though people would understand if he did - and also because he wanted Alabama to have more national titles than Notre Dame (who claimed 10 at that time).
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:55 pm to Korin
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And guess what, most of those claims are legit according to the NCAA site.
Mr.AU has always had an emotional investment in Bama NCs.Some fans just can't accept that a hated rival has had more success so they have to work to try to undermine that success when accepting it would be more therapeutic.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:56 pm to TTsTowel
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Anything to take away from your spotlight with meltdowns is helping, yes?
Let's not forget you were the one that was happy when your team got rid of Malzahn the first time.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:56 pm to RollTide1987
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So why not Oklahoma? They were actually in the game that year.
Bama fans really do get hot and bothered when you try to give Auburn credit for anything, yet have no problem claiming titles much less deserving. And why not Oklahoma? Maybe because they didn't finish the season undefeated. Not to mention, Oklahoma and USC started the season 1 and 2 and never moved. Auburn had no chance to pass them, regardless of what they did on the field.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:57 pm to RollTide1987
if he'd made 1941 , 1945 instead, this might have all slipped past the goalie.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:58 pm to MetryTyger
quote:When do I wake up from this nightmare?
It was all a dream.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:58 pm to mbogo
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Some fans just can't accept that a hated rival has had more success so they have to work to try to undermine that success when accepting it would be more therapeutic.
Um, doesn't Alabama do this exact thing when it pertains to Auburn?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:59 pm to I-59 Tiger
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f he'd made 1941 , 1945 instead, this might have all slipped past the goalie.
Yeah...I don't know why he didn't pick 1945. Alabama finished 10-0, won the SEC, and absolutely destroyed USC in the Rose Bowl. Also...the team that came closest to beating us that year was Georgia, only losing by the score of 28-14.
We did finish #3 in the AP that year but the two teams that finished ahead of us were 9-0 Army and 7-1-1 Navy. Hmm...it's 1945, World War II has just ended, and the two service academies finish #1 and #2 that year. Coincidence?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:00 pm to RollTide1987
Which was bs because none of those players had anything at all to do with winning WW2.
Edit: Both also declined to play in a bowl.
Edit: Both also declined to play in a bowl.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:01 pm to RollTide1987
I thought Alabama was #2 in 1945? Regardless, it hard to knock the Army but no reason Alabama couldn't have been 'co champs' in '45. Excellent football team.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:04 pm to Korin
And just to touch on how dominant that '45 Alabama squad was, and just how lopsided the 1946 Rose Bowl against USC really was:
Alabama beat USC 34-14. Despite the final score (a 20-point victory) the '46 Rose Bowl was probably the most lopsided in history. At the start of the 4th quarter, Alabama was up 34-0. USC had yet to get a first down and had yet to run a positive play from scrimmage. USC only scored when Thomas put his 3rd and 4th stringers in to finish the game.
Alabama beat USC 34-14. Despite the final score (a 20-point victory) the '46 Rose Bowl was probably the most lopsided in history. At the start of the 4th quarter, Alabama was up 34-0. USC had yet to get a first down and had yet to run a positive play from scrimmage. USC only scored when Thomas put his 3rd and 4th stringers in to finish the game.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:05 pm to BamaDoc14
quote:1) Auburn did not get rid of Gus Malzahn.
Let's not forget you were the one that was happy when your team got rid of Malzahn the first time.
2) Where and when was I happy?
ETA: That was a completely off the wall post, BTW.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:06 pm to RollTide1987
1945 as well, so 16 total right?
We should probably just go ahead and round to 20 to make it easy.
We should probably just go ahead and round to 20 to make it easy.
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 6:12 pm to TTsTowel
quote:If you're looking for a number that's fair and as close to accurate as possible, you'd better start by adding the 1966 and 1977 national championships to Alabama's total. Go back and look at how the northern press and sectional bias took Notre Dame and Michigan St. who played to a tie in'66, and gave them the championship over a 12-0 Alabama team that Coach Bryant called the best football team he ever coached, and in '77, jumped a #5 Notre Dame team who'd lost to a Ole Miss team that finished 2-5 in the SEC, all the way to #1 (ahead of #2 Alabama) for the championship.
Now, yes, they have a lot...more than anybody else in college football history. They are pretty much the poster child for winning in college football. However, I'm here to discuss how many National Championships Alabama really has. They claim, what, 15 of them? But, really, how many of those are legit? According to the NCAA, Alabama has 13 National Championships (2012, 2011, 2009, 1992, 1979, 1978, 1973, 1965, 1964, 1961, 1930, 1926, and 1925). That's fair, IMO. It's not as many that is claimed on a daily basis, but it is still a large amount. It is definitely something to brag about. Based on this, do Alabama fans agree? Is 13 a more accurate number, or do you have another number in mind (please back up your claim). Also, while taking a gander through the website posted above, I noticed that there are a lot of National Championships that have shares...31 to be exact. Of those 31, Alabama is involved with 7 of them. To me, that was a crazy number. No knock or slight to Alabama at all, but how did they end up being apart of so many throughout history? After having read through my post above, if you feel that Alabama does deserve to lay claim to 15 National Championships, how many does Auburn deserve to claim, IYO? 1957 and 2010, for sure. What about 1983? 2004? What do you think? Jay Jacobs mainly wants to know this...no, we do not claim him. All 'Bama, all the time on the SECRant, right?
So take a couple of the old titles away and replace them with those and I'll be OK.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 6:13 pm to TTsTowel
This is a trick question...
The answer is zero since they were all "mythical."
The answer is zero since they were all "mythical."
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