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re: How many National Championships does Alabama really have in football?

Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:57 pm to
Those rustle my jimmies though. They get a national title with their bowl bans, whereas we lost our SEC title in 84 because of it.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:58 pm to
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. Both were on bowl bans.


sorry you dont know whats up, once again
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:58 pm to
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It's already been discussed ad nauseum and JJ is no different if he decides to do the same thing.

I guess guys like you will lose your argument if and when Auburn does.
If Jay Jacobs decides to do the same thing, and claim undeserving titles, I feel that it is only fair since we have other schools already claiming bogus National Championships. We should be fair to all parties involved.

That is my take on the issue.

If others do it, why not Auburn?
Posted by Socratics
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:01 pm to
Personally, I recognize Bama as having 8 National Championships. Champions before 1943 are all suspect at best with 4-5 teams claiming to be champions every year before 1943. Claiming national titles even though you lost your bowl game is stupid. Bama still has more legit titles than anyone else regardless.

Bama AP/Coaches or BCS championships with bowl victories
1961, 1965,1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012

This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:01 pm to
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If others do it, why not Auburn?



You are free to do so. But you'll be laughed at and ridiculed like a retard trying to run a 100-meter dash with Olympians. Alabama has only one bogus national championship claim. Auburn will have at least four if they go ahead and do this.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:01 pm to
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If others do it, why not Auburn?


While others have done it, none have been so bold as to claim one since'70. Jay is considering three during that time frame.

Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:02 pm to
So because Alabama claims 2 or 3 dubious titles Auburn's gotta claim 6 or 7 of them?

The whole thing reeks of desperation and little brother syndrome.

Particularly in that even with all those additional claims AU would still be way behind Bama, so what's the point?

At least by only claiming 100% legit titles Auburn can take the moral high ground. What's left if you claim a bunch of bogus ones and are still behind Bama by double digits?

And as others have pointed out, if you wanna use the most liberal criteria possible, Alabama can claim 19.

This comes across as butthurt from losing the title game. I get the feeling if Auburn had beaten FSU this wouldn't even be being considered.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:02 pm to
We have two
Posted by Dodgson
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:03 pm to
I really don't care how you count them as long as you apply the same fair criteria to other teams. I've seen these discussions on Alabama's claims going to "well this and this and this title should be cut" while not noting that other teams' claims are going down as well so relatively nothing much has changed. Strange claims are everywhere.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:04 pm to
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get the feeling if Auburn had beaten FSU this wouldn't even be being considered.


think this has been in discussion for over 2 years
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:06 pm to
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So because Alabama claims 2 or 3 dubious titles Auburn's gotta claim 6 or 7 of them?
Did I say that? I have no idea what Jay Jacobs plans to do, FWIW.
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The whole thing reeks of desperation and little brother syndrome. Particularly in that even with all those additional claims AU would still be way behind Bama, so what's the point?
It's just the principle of the matter, really.

Alabama fans boast about having 15 (except the ones that know that that number is wrong) and down Auburn for only having 2, when, in reality, Alabama is claiming National Championships that they have no business claiming. And, yes, if the two teams are put on the same ground and have the same standards, Alabama still has more. That's not the point, though.
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At least by only claiming 100% legit titles Auburn can take the moral high ground.
Yea, that is true.
Posted by taylormade
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:07 pm to
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TTsTowel




Just stopping in for a bit.. nice write up!






My Fav Natty!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:07 pm to
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I really don't care how you count them as long as you apply the same fair criteria to other teams.
I could not agree more. That is my point.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:07 pm to
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taylormade
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:08 pm to
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If Jay Jacobs decides to do the same thing, and claim undeserving titles, I feel that it is only fair since we have other schools already claiming bogus National Championships. We should be fair to all parties involved.

That is my take on the issue.

If others do it, why not Auburn?


Who else claims titles where they didn't even get a single selection?
Posted by taylormade
Tumbleton
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:09 pm to
Miami was so good that year I was scared.........


kinda

Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:12 pm to
First time seeing a thread of this type. Love it


Never understood why a school like Bama, which has loads of titles, would need to claim anything.


That is the biggest reason I cannot stand most Bammers. Teague I am looking at you
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:16 pm to
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you need to get banned again


why?

you're frickin terrible
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:17 pm to
It is a bad PR move for Auburn to do this now.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:17 pm to
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But you'll be laughed at and ridiculed like a retard trying to run a 100-meter dash with Olympians.


You do realize bama added a bunch of "claimed" NC's right after bear died, don't you? That was in 1983. This is why you "claim" them....

"I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be," Atcheson said. "I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about, I wanted people to know the best about my school."


It was a pissing contest.
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