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re: How LSU's Rushing Offense Has Skewed Rushing Defensive Statistics
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:01 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:01 pm to JuiceTerry
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What is your replacement value?
Whatever the absolute middle of the FBS team rushing stats. Whether that's the 63rd or 64th team, I don't know. But it would just be a stand in to give an 8th game because replacing that game with the per game average of the team you're calculating for would be meaningless.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:03 pm to JuiceTerry
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What is your replacement value?
He's giving them 0.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:04 pm to Geauxgurt
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He's giving them 0.
I'm not. I would remove the game entirely. But if one was interested in adjusting to make all teams number of games played equal, I offered a (likely shitty) way of adjusting.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:05 pm to Patton
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Am I missing something?
Basic mathematical reasoning?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:06 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:Right. And that would make his numbers a lot different. You can't just say "Had X not played LSU, they would jump from 112 to 66." Otherwise, you would have to adjust every other defense and take out their worst game against the rush.
Whatever the absolute middle of the FBS team rushing stats.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:06 pm to Geauxgurt
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Your point is valid, but when you use horrible math that exaggerates the effect beyond belief, don't expect to be taken seriously.
Fair enough. Just curious, was the screenname Tigercount not available when you joined the Rant?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:09 pm to ProjectP2294
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I'm not. I would remove the game entirely. But if one was interested in adjusting to make all teams number of games played equal, I offered a (likely shitty) way of adjusting.
I know. People complaining that an average over 7 games is less valid than an average over 8 games is so huge are idiots.
Another thing to remember though is looking at trends. For example, after the LSU game, Syracuse gave up the following ypg rushing:
USF - 281
UVA - 159
Pit - 188
FSU - 221 (without Cook)
That is after LSU, they gave up 212.3 ypg. A far cry from their first three games, where they gave up an average of 46.7 ypg against the likes of Rhode Island, CMU and Wake Forest.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:10 pm to Dignan
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Fair enough. Just curious, was the screenname Tigercount not available when you joined the Rant?
Wow. Have you ever heard the saying of "better to be thought an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:13 pm to Fratigerguy
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Basic mathematical reasoning?
People better at math than me are bringing up points of disagreement. So na na poo poo stick your head in doo doo.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:16 pm to Patton
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So na na poo poo stick your head in doo doo.
Point taken. BTW, I made adjustments on the original post.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:19 pm to Geauxgurt
Exactly. What if LSU is not the outlier, but the weak teams that inflated their ranking are?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:20 pm to Geauxgurt
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Wow. Have you ever heard the saying of "better to be thought an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
I've heard the saying, but it doesn't apply here. However, you seem to be great with numbers and have the personality of an accountant as well, so you're probably better qualified to post on this subject.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:21 pm to Patton
hello, Stat Topic, it's been a long time.
Did some work a week ago on this very subject, but it's a week old so it's all crap now!
Being an Alabama fan, I'm of the opinion that LSU hasn't faced a good running offense or too many good running defenses, while Alabama hasn't faced any good running offenses (Chubb'd Georgia is the outlier), but faced some good running defenses (Wincy, Ole Miss and Arkansas). Roll Tahd Pawl.
Did some work a week ago on this very subject, but it's a week old so it's all crap now!
Being an Alabama fan, I'm of the opinion that LSU hasn't faced a good running offense or too many good running defenses, while Alabama hasn't faced any good running offenses (Chubb'd Georgia is the outlier), but faced some good running defenses (Wincy, Ole Miss and Arkansas). Roll Tahd Pawl.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:22 pm to JuiceTerry
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What if LSU is not the outlier, but the weak teams that inflated their ranking are?
If the exercise is not to determine the outlier, but to determine LSU's impact on their statistics, that doesn't really matter.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:30 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:Even if the terrible running teams they faced impact their ranking more than LSU did? The numbers the OP posted are worthless.
If the exercise is not to determine the outlier, but to determine LSU's impact on their statistics, that doesn't really matter.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:34 pm to JuiceTerry
nvm
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:38 pm to JuiceTerry
Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. How dense are you?
Removing the LSU game, each of LSU's opponents have played 7 games. Still with me?
Removing each game with LSU as an opponent:
Florida has allowed 661 total yards for an average of 94.42 a game.
Syracuse has allowed 989 total yards for an average of 141.2 a game.
Moo State has allowed 978 total yards for an average of 139.7 yards per game.
South Carolina has allowed 1326 total yards for an average of 189.4 yards per game.
Auburn has allowed 1144 total yards for an average of 163.4 yards a game.
I don't know how I can make it clearer for you.
Removing the LSU game, each of LSU's opponents have played 7 games. Still with me?
Removing each game with LSU as an opponent:
Florida has allowed 661 total yards for an average of 94.42 a game.
Syracuse has allowed 989 total yards for an average of 141.2 a game.
Moo State has allowed 978 total yards for an average of 139.7 yards per game.
South Carolina has allowed 1326 total yards for an average of 189.4 yards per game.
Auburn has allowed 1144 total yards for an average of 163.4 yards a game.
I don't know how I can make it clearer for you.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:44 pm to JuiceTerry
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Even if the terrible running teams they faced impact their ranking more than LSU did?
Yes. Because we are isolating for LSU's impact.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:49 pm to ProjectP2294
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Yes. Because we are isolating for LSU's impact.
Exactly. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 5:52 pm to Dignan
I can't help you anymore. Your stats are useless.
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