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re: How is LSU the bad guy in this?

Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:49 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:49 am to
Welcome to the gump melt.
Posted by fooz
DFW
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:53 am to
LSU offered, then begged according to J.A., to play Foley in Gainesville on Sat, Sun, or Monday, 2016. A fact that even Foley has not disputed.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:56 am to
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How about the fact that your AD said anytime, anywhere


this is a fact?

and you wonder why I don't want to actually go back and forth with you

LSU never said "ANYTIME, ANYWHERE BRO"

what they did say is that they'd fly into Gainesville on Sunday or Monday.

If you actually researched and didn't just use your own uninformed opinions, as you did earlier in your own thread where you didn't even realize LSU gave all proceeds to USCe last year, you'd have come across direct quotes from Joe Alleva. None of which say, "anytime, anywhere!!1"

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“My first conversation with (Florida Athletic Director) Jeremy (Foley) was on Tuesday. He was confident they were going to be able to play the game. We had a conference call on Wednesday. They were very confident that they could play the game. They thought, maybe, they would have to move the time to later,” Alleva said. “Then, today, it all felt apart. From the very beginning, it just all fell apart.”

LSU offered a Florida a slew of things, Alleva said. The Tigers offered to host the game on Saturday or Sunday and would have hosted it on Monday, too, he said. They offered to provide transportation to Florida to Baton Rouge or a neutral site.

They offered to play the game in Gainesville on Sunday, when the hurricane would be long through the area. Also in the path of the storm is the Georgia-South Carolina game in Columbia, South Carolina. That game was moved to Sunday, the SEC office announced Thursday night.

“I suggested we play the game on Sunday in front of nobody if there was no police available,” Alleva said.

Florida declined all of LSU’s options.


LINK

Do yourself a favor. Stop making up shite, and stop trying to engage me on a subject that you're either a- too emotionally attached, b- too stupid to read or c- both

any other sports you'd like to discuss? How about the eastern conference in the NBA? Who do you think could be a threat to the Cavs and why?
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by BenderIsGreat
New New York
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:58 am to
From reading your posts, you sound like a huge ignorant bitch.

Bitching about LSU's AD not wanting to move a home game due to the city losing much needed revenue, but Florida's AD said "The game will be in Gainesville on Saturday" last week while staring a hurricane in the face. And when LSU agreed to play either Sunday or Monday in Gainesville, UF wanted none of it.

First the narrative from UF was "The game will absolutely be played" and then changed to "but muh player safety", despite one day earlier telling LSU to fly into an area projected to be hit by a category 4 hurricane.

The sheer stupidity from this board is getting to be too much.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:14 pm to
the lack of responses from our neighborhood nimrod is telling. Shut his arse down with a quickness.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:18 pm to
Our neighborhood nimrod will downvote but refuse to comment when he is proven wrong.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:19 pm to
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At the end of the day, LSU Athletic Director Joe Alleva crossed his arms, threw a tantrum like a child and refused to be amenable during negotiations with Florida and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey.



At the end of WHICH day?

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So beginning on Monday they were in constant contact with Florida officials seeking the latest updates on the forecast and endeavoring to know Florida's own hurricane contingency plans. This constant contact set off alarm bells in Gainesville -- what was LSU's aim here? While Tiger officials could rightfully point to their past experience dealing with hurricanes and argue that they were just trying to be proactive about an uncertain weather condition, Gator officials began to wonder, in the hypercompetitive SEC, was this an attempt by LSU to steal a home game from Florida?

Communication, cooperation, and questioning of motives and decisions would continue for the rest of the week.

LSU, wanting to ensure that the game was played, also contacted the SEC office, ultimately presenting a bevy of options to play the game the weekend it was scheduled. With a new coach in Ed Orgeron, the Tigers were eager to go on the road and build momentum for the well-liked Orgeron's chances to retain the job. If Coach O. could keep the Tigers playing as well as they had against Missouri in his first game as interim coach, it was possible the LSU football team, highly ranked before disappointing and close losses to Wisconsin and Auburn, could get back on track. Even knowing they would be without their best player, running back Leonard Fournette, the Tigers wanted to play this game as it was scheduled.

But there were rapidly mounting complications aplenty.

When LSU's hotel rooms were gobbled up by storm evacuees, the Tigers embarked on a series of logistical plans to ensure they could still travel for the game. Ultimately LSU told the SEC they were prepared to fly into either Tallahassee or Tampa, since Gainesville's airport was closed on Friday, on the day of the Florida game and bus to Gainesville from either of those airports, which would be open because they were outside the storm's reach. After the game LSU would fly back out, ensuring that the team took up no hotel rooms in the state of Florida.

Not only were the Tigers willing to play on the scheduled Saturday, they also told the SEC office they would also be willing to play on Sunday and Monday in Gainesville.

As LSU officials scrambled to make travel plans for the football team's air travel, the same planning was also being done for the LSU football equipment, which travels via a semi-truck. The Tigers reserved hotel rooms in South Alabama to allow their travel crew to avoid any peril from the storm. Student managers packed the big rig and were told to be ready to leave on extremely short notice to ensure that the football pads and equipment arrived on time.

What's more, LSU was so eager to play the game that they also presented the SEC office with an additional option, they could host the game in Baton Rouge, as they'd done last year with South Carolina after severe flooding in Columbia, and play the game on Saturday, Sunday or Monday in Louisiana. LSU officials were so diligent in their preparation that they had hotel rooms reserved for Florida in either Baton Rouge or New Orleans. As a final option designed to ensure as much equality as possible, LSU let it be known that they would play the game with no fans present.

LSU's message to the SEC league office was clear -- we want to play the game this weekend and we'll do whatever we need to do to make that happen. The SEC league office conveyed this same message to the Florida Gators.


The WHOLE story - not just starting after Florida refused to play the game any other day but Saturday and only in Gainesville

It's funny how you Florida fans only pick up the story AFTER Foley threw a tantrum like a little child and cancelled the game.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41320 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:37 pm to
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It's funny how you Florida fans only pick up the story AFTER Foley threw a tantrum like a little child and cancelled the game.


I think the lack of empathy from LSU is what was the most surprising thing in the whole episode. And I am talking about the entirety of the LSU community. Fans, coaches, players, AD, admins, news media. Literally all facets that represent LSU seemed to not care at all about Florida. On top of zero spirit of cooperation, insults were hurled at UF. This type of stuff is understandable on a message board, but not from respected folks who are running things and have been around these types of events before. And I understand LSU is having a tough year, but you would think that would even further the understanding, not lessen it.

No troll just my $.02
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:40 pm to
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bigDgator


Offering to fly in, play the game on Sunday or Monday (At UF's discretion), and fly out so they don't take up any hotel rooms that may be needed is a "lack of empathy" and "zero spirit of cooperation"?

Right.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:43 pm to
LSU refused to play at UF nov 19

"We've made every effort to play this game." Lie!

Except on Nov. 19th. Saying you made "every effort" is trying to play off a tough stance and extremely similar to "anytime, anywhere" and Alleva played on that and you know it.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:45 pm to
This is not multiple choice. You don't go into a situation and say you have option A or B, pick one. That is not cooperation.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:46 pm to
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This is not multiple choice. You don't go into a situation and say you have option A or B, pick one. That is not cooperation.




Whatever you say. You're trying to bash LSU and I just provided a direct contradiction to your point.

Sorry you don't like it.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:47 pm to
I'm not trying to be argumentative, just answering the OP's question. It is over and done and I am still gonna root for LSU in every game but ours.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:47 pm to
you do realize the quotes from Joe Alleva were last week, well before November 19th was mentioned as an option.

Your timeline is convenient for your made-up argument.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:49 pm to
That article is from the same day of the one you posted.

Oct 6

Keep digging yourself in it though. But I'm supposed to do my research right dick?

So that's three times you've been wrong calling me out in this thread.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:49 pm to
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This is not multiple choice. You don't go into a situation and say you have option A or B, pick one. That is not cooperation.



The absolute worst option is what ended up happening. Can we all not agree that playing on Sunday or Monday in Gainesville, as LSU did in 2005 with Tennessee, would have been the best option? Why should LSU cooperate after UF refused to days before?

You people want to have your cake and eat it too. Sorry. Had your AD not moved at molasses pace, none of this would be an issue. It was as simple as playing the game on Monday.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41320 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Sorry you don't like it.


I am fine with the solution. I like it better than playing in Gainesville on Nov 19th. Gives us a great home slate next year.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:51 pm to
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I think the lack of empathy from LSU

Troll.

LSU was WAY out in front of this trying to make sure the game would be played - at Gainesville if possible. Why are you ignoring that?

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Literally all facets that represent LSU seemed to not care at all about Florida.

Troll. We care. We care to share. We wanted to play the game in Gainesville for y'all. Why are you ignoring that fact?

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On top of zero spirit of cooperation

Why are you ignoring ALL WEEK leading up to the storm? LSU was BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to get this game played in Gainesville. But in these days where everyone has ADD, no one can remember what LSU was doing before the storm actually hit.
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but not from respected folks who are running things

Why wouldn't Foley budge on moving the game to Sunday or Monday in Gainesville? If he had listened to Alleva, the game would've been played in Gainesville, no one would lose a home game, and none of this shite would STILL be getting brought up over and over on the board.
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No troll just my $.02

This could have all been avoided in Foley had just agreed to postpone the game to Monday night as Alleva had suggested.

Why didn't he?

That probably explains the lack of empathy. LSU gave Foley EVERY opportunity to schedule the game on Monday in Gainesville - but he refused to cooperate. Then he comes out and accuses LSU of not cooperating?

What a fricking hypocrite.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41320 posts
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:53 pm to
When did the Katrina hit? I believe it was a Monday. To play a game a week later is much different than when a hurricane comes through and area on Friday and trying to play 2 or 3 days later. These situations are not all exactly alike. Again I would have liked to seen the game played on Sunday, but I am not sure it was feasible. But logistically to compare it to Katrina is apples and oranges in my opinion.
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