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re: How horrible of a coach is Sumlin?

Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:20 pm to
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You're kinda like the sidekick that re-arranges what the main guy says and presents it in an echo-like fashion.



Likee Tim from Home Improvement when he would try to pass on Wilson's wisdom to others?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Spindicus Lofrus



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A&M.



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College Station


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Sumlin



fricking clockwork
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9255 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:21 pm to
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TheJones


I can't help it that you're like, obsessed with me!
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:21 pm to
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We're gonna absolutely boat race Arkansas this year ... CAN'T


I think if we polled this board, the SEC/all NCAA coaches, and all the media members from every state but Arkansas and Texas, it would be about 90% in favor of Arkansas winning the matchup. Aggy got lucky last season, a questionable "tripping" call away from rejoining their rightful place below Arkansas. Do I need to post the all time record to remind you?
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:21 pm to
you'd really take Sumlin over Muffin? I could understand Sumlin over McElwain and Mason, but Muffin is the real deal
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
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questionable "tripping" call


Nothing questionable about it.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
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A&M's AD should have dared Sumlin to leave and call him on his bluff.


No way. I don't care if Sumlin is a bust and we waste the money on him AND Chavis, I will always say keeping Sumlin that year was essential.

If we replace Sumlin that offseason, then both us and Texas would have gotten coaches the same offseason. And because they were willing to eat the second largest buyout ever I am pretty sure they would have ended up with a better "on paper" hire.

Which means unless our hire was the best hire in the history of our program we are staring down the barrel of the old way of life when Texas beat us in almost every head-to-head recruitment because the hires sent a clear signal they are the better program. Now because we don't play them and we hired at different cycles its ambiguous whose program is in better shape, and quite frankly any ambiguity benefits us more than them. So $5 millin a year for Sumlin and $1.6 million for Chavis is the best money A&M ever spent.

Add in the fact that there was no coach I wanted in that cycle (or this cycle really) and its a slam dunk. If Sumlin is just a placeholder until Chad Morris learns the ropes of being a head coach I am fine with that. Patience is key, there is always next year.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33344 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Likee Tim from Home Improvement when he would try to pass on Wilson's wisdom to others?



Yeah, something in that sort of manner
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33344 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:23 pm to
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I can't help it that you're like, obsessed with me!



It's cool, I'll move on in a little while
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:23 pm to
No, I really just wanted to name a random western coach to appear more objective.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9255 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:23 pm to
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What on earth...?


Just gotta throw shite out there and roll with it
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:24 pm to
Sail on
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
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The win at Bama bought him at least 12 years, regardless of results.


The crazy hyperbole really doesn't fit your Eeyore message.
Posted by Aggieguy2019
Dallas
Member since Aug 2014
251 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
you can't even accept that that was the right call?
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
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who said it's a troll? i don't think sumlin is a good coach.



REAL ANSWER:
Well you'd be wrong. He's done much better in a harder league.

In 2011 Sherman took a preseason #8 team to a 6-6 record. Sumlin took the exact same team, minus the #8 draft pick QB, the #1 WR, and #1 RB and won 12 in the SEC.

You win with juniors and seniors on defense. The reason Sumlin did so well in '12 is because the defense was full of 2-3 year starters, and had incredible injury luck. That team was literally one deep at 8/11 defensive positions.
Sherman's last two classes had major holes, especally on defense.(big part of why he was let go)
Snyder was awful, but almost no one could have had a good defense with what's been on campus. All our best defenders have been Sumlin recruits, but they've been young and inexperienced. We've been having to choose between guys that aren't prepared physically/mentally to play or career backups recruited for the big 12.


Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44018 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:26 pm to
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No one does.

No one?
Anywhere?
This is terrible.
What if someone doesn't like us or our coach?

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JFF tried to bolt to Texas cause he sucks so bad.

Who sucks?
Johnny?
Sumlin?
UTex?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:26 pm to
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Do I need to post the all time record to remind you?


Sure, post a record that was mostly built in a time when Arkansas was a nationally respected program. It is as relevant as a data point of how many national titles Yale has.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:27 pm to
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No way. I don't care if Sumlin is a bust and we waste the money on him AND Chavis, I will always say keeping Sumlin that year was essential.

If we replace Sumlin that offseason, then both us and Texas would have gotten coaches the same offseason. And because they were willing to eat the second largest buyout ever I am pretty sure they would have ended up with a better "on paper" hire.

Which means unless our hire was the best hire in the history of our program we are staring down the barrel of the old way of life when Texas beat us in almost every head-to-head recruitment because the hires sent a clear signal they are the better program. Now because we don't play them and we hired at different cycles its ambiguous whose program is in better shape, and quite frankly any ambiguity benefits us more than them. So $5 millin a year for Sumlin and $1.6 million for Chavis is the best money A&M ever spent.





This just oozes little bro, but from a pr standpoint it does make sense


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Add in the fact that there was no coach I wanted in that cycle (or this cycle really) and its a slam dunk. If Sumlin is just a placeholder until Chad Morris learns the ropes of being a head coach I am fine with that. Patience is key, there is always next year.




Yeah, I think Chad Morris is going to kill it at SMU. They've got the money and already have a nice stadium. I'm excited to see this multi-million IPF they supposedly have in the works.

It will be interesting to see how long he stays if he turns SMU around fast. No pressure, nice salary, and get to live in Highland Park. You can see the allure of staying long-term
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13540 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:28 pm to
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you can't even accept that that was the right call?


Oh it was definitely a trip and a fair call, just not for trolling purposes.

Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:28 pm to
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questionable "tripping" call away


He kicked at him twice, sounds like questionable judgement on your players part
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