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re: How does the $20k fit in the equation?

Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:55 am to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:55 am to
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I gathered from the AD's comments that it came from University funds.

I may have misunderstood, but if it didn't come from the Arkansas ath dept, what was the reason to reveal that?



Full disclosure, it was going to come out anyway and if you didn't notice that was the theme behind this entire scandal...

The AD was being upfront and releasing all the information the general public was going to find out anyway...
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:56 am to
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ESPN said that the money came from Bobby, not the school.


Then I misunderstood. But then why did the AD feel the need to reveal this?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:57 am to
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Either way I believe it's a NCAA secondary violation, although I think coaches just have to go to a rules re-education


well,technically that was one of the things that got Galen Hall in trouble in 1989. Supposedly he was giving money to assistants out of his own pocket.
Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:58 am to
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coaches just have to go to a rules re-education


Then it shouldn't be a problem for good ole Bobby Motherfrickin Petrino... his schedule has cleared up a little bit.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:58 am to
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But then why did the AD feel the need to reveal this?
More facts that support his termination for cause.

The real answer is to help the school win the pr battle. The worse BP looks the fewer angry hog fans there are due to the decision.
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 9:59 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:58 am to
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well,technically that was one of the things that got Galen Hall in trouble in 1989. Supposedly he was giving money to assistants out of his own pocket.








Richt just got in trouble as well
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:59 am to
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well,technically that was one of the things that got Galen Hall in trouble in 1989. Supposedly he was giving money to assistants out of his own pocket.



This was before she was on his staff, another reason for the revelation as there isn't anything to hide because it isn't a NCAA violation in this case...
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:59 am to
Wasn't there a coach that recently got in trouble for giving his assistants a bowl bonus out of his own pocket?

It was Richt wasn't it?
This post was edited on 4/11/12 at 10:00 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:00 am to
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Either way I believe it's a NCAA secondary violation


It sure sounds like it would be. I THINK (can't remember for sure) that Richt got some secondary violations when he paid all his assistants a little extra out of his own pocket.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:00 am to
Didnt Spurrier just get told by the NCAA that he couldnt give money out of his own pocket?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:02 am to
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because it isn't a NCAA violation in this case...


by no means do I think this is an NCAA violation. I was just throwing out Galen Hall at Florida in '89 who was paying assistants some money out of his own pocket--which is a weird violation.

Its just the AD mentioned this more than once which if she was paid from Petrino's own funds IMO didn't need to be revealed other than to make Petrino look worse that he already did. Seems rather spiteful.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:02 am to
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It sure sounds like it would be. I THINK (can't remember for sure) that Richt got some secondary violations when he paid all his assistants a little extra out of his own pocket.


She wasn't a member of the staff in any capacity at the time of the payment.

No violation.

If it really was going to be a problem, all petrino had to do was give the money to her dad anyway...
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:02 am to
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11.3.2.2 Supplemental Pay. An outside source is prohibited from paying or regularly supplementing an
athletics department staff member’s annual salary and from arranging to supplement that salary for an unspecified
achievement. This includes the donation of cash from outside sources to the institution earmarked for the
staff member’s salary or supplemental income. It would be permissible for an outside source to donate funds to
the institution to be used as determined by the institution, and it would be permissible for the institution, at its
sole discretion, to use such funds to pay or supplement a staff member’s salary.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:02 am to
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But then why did the AD feel the need to reveal this?


Maybe it was a "you embarrass me, I'll embarrass you" kinda thing?
Posted by trillhog
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:03 am to
she should give that cash back, only fair.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:03 am to
She wasn't a member of the staff at the time of the money exchanging hands, this "relationship" had been going on for a while, long before he hired her a couple weeks ago...
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:03 am to
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Maybe it was a "you embarrass me, I'll embarrass you" kinda thing?


based on his demeanor last night...I'd say that is a possibility
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:03 am to
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She wasn't a member of the staff in any capacity at the time of the payment


Didn't know that. Then what was his excuse for the payment? How did he justify paying some random 25 year old 20K?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:04 am to
Did they give a date when the payment was made?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:05 am to
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Didn't know that. Then what was his excuse for the payment? How did he justify paying some random 25 year old 20K?



It was his own money, I didn't realize the University is suppose to be monitoring his bank accounts and flag large cash withdraws for further questioning...
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