re: How does Bama compare with tu in running a conference?

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Crazy troll. Funny you mentioned the LSU thing- his posting is one of the first that I recall thinking oh yeah A&M and LSU belong together.

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I don't troll.

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Txsbigeasy1

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Thank you, sir. I was about to roll out that link myself.

What these aggies do not understand is that boosters cheating is very, very hard to control. The NCAA has always been relatively light on schools whose boosters are the ones instigating the cheating.

Now here's what the aggies don't grasp: A&M and SMU officials LIED about it once they got caught.

They STONEWALLED investigations.

THAT is when the NCAA comes down hard.

THAT is called "lack of institutional control."

For example, SMU had already been on probation right before the death penalty, and its administrators continually lied that they had cleaned up things, when they had their finger in the pie the whole time.

And, at A&M, when they got caught, they fricking lied and stonewalled. Jackie Sherrill led the NCAA around by the nose, and they didn't take too kindly to it once they had the goods.

What also gets the NCAA's attention is when you are a repeat offender in a short timespan. The aggies were eligible for the death penalty because the basketball program went rogue in 1991, and then the football program got caught soon thereafter.

You ****s cuss DeLoss Dodds like a cur dog, but it was him who went before the Infractions Committee and begged them not to give you the death penalty, because it would've destroyed the already teetering Southwest Conference:

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Factually, the infractions incurred by Texas A&M over the last 20 years pale in comparison to some of the teams we've already seen. The primary difference, however, is that in many of those cases, the Committee on Infractions sympathized with the institutions for their lack of involvement and inability to stop the boosters. This sometimes resulted in lighter sentences, and fewer instances of "lack of institutional control."

In 1988, the NCAA uncovered numerous incidents of assistant coaches, boosters, and current players offer improper incentives to prospective athletes. On one occasion an assistant coach drove a Datsun 280ZX to the prospective athlete's house. Parked it in the drive way and told him, in not so many words, that it could be his if he signed with the Aggies. In a more morally repugnant incident, that same assistant coach tried to lure a different prospect by telling him that he could arrange for his father to receive medical treatment if the player signed with Texas A&M.

To make matters worse, the assistant coach repeatedly lied about his involvement in those (and other) recruiting violations. He admitted during a hearing, once he finally came clean, that he knew what he was doing was a violation of the rules, knew that he should've reported them, and did not do so to try to cover it up.

Another assistant coach was found to have secreted a recruit away in an apartment, plying him with refreshments, on national signing day so that other teams would be unable to get in touch with him prior to him signing with the Aggies.

For their missteps, the NCAA imposed two years of probation, a one year post-season ban, and docked the Aggies 10 scholarships.

In their 1994 report, the NCAA praised Texas A&M for the strides that they had made in their compliance since the 1988 incidents, but lamented the fact that certain boosters and players just couldn't get with the program. 1994 also marked the second time in 3 years that the university had narrowly avoided the death penalty. The previous time, in 1991, was attributed to the men's basketball program.

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No. 3 Dirtiest Football Programs: A&M

What is the purpose of posting another link to Aggies cheating? None of us is denying what happened. We got caught, took our lumps, and we moved on.

The fact that UTx was BETTER at cheating, and was able to avoid getting caught is not a victory for your moral superiority. Maybe it's a testament to your power and deviousness, but that has rarely been in question.

Same old sip shite over and over and over.

"They cheat. They are broke. They suck. We are better than them. They left because they are scared. They aren't even our rival. We don't even care about them."

I'll be glad when more time separates us and some of their anger and jealousy subsides.

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I don't troll.

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mmm hmm. i see you're conceding the crazy part.

Here's all you need to know:

If Alabama truly "runs" the conference, in the last 20 years: (1993-2012)

-The SEC has become the dominant conference in almost all of college athletics.

-Florida (3), Tennessee (1), LSU (2), Alabama (3), and Auburn (1) have all won Football National Championships

-Arkansas (1), Kentucky (2), and Florida (2) have all won Basketball National Championships

-LSU (5) and South Carolina (2) have won College World Series titles.

-2 CWS finals have been all-SEC

-The SEC has expanded to 14 teams from 10 and hasn't had a team leave since the 1960's

-They expanded their academic profile in 2012 with the addition of two AAU schools and the foundation of the SEC Research Consortium

-Soon to be a new conference network

Contrast that to Texas. In the last 20 years:

-Two major conferences ended (SWC, Big 8) as a result of their actions

-Five major rivalries (Oklahoma/Nebraska, Texas/Texas A&M, Kansas/Missouri, Nebraska/Colorado, West Virginia/Pittsburgh) were ended

-Five schools left for other conferences (Arkansas, Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, Missouri)

-Three other schools were abandoned and left for dead (SMU, Houston, Rice) One was thrown a life-raft 19 years later (TCU)

-Only two teams remaining in their conference have a national championship in football (Oklahoma, Texas)

-Only one team remaining in their conference has a national championship in basketball (Kansas)

-Only one team remaining in their conference has a CWS title: Texas (2)

-The academic profile of their conference has decreased drastically

-Their network has for all intents and purposes marginalized every member of their conference.

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CGSC Lobotomy

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The other thing on Charles Allen Wright. He essentially wrote the book (literally) on NCAA infractions while Chair in the '70s, remained on the committee directly into the '80s, and consulted on virtually every case brought before the committee and was seen as the Godfather of the Infractions Committee until he health declined in the late '90s. He was a brilliant lawyer but an open Longhorn fan that was known for being an intimidating and partisan figure throughout his life.

Kudos to Texas for getting him as their inside guy but to act as though it was a coincidence that the NCAA basically destroyed all of Texas competition while he was involved is just laughable.

...and I agree with every word of it.

Once again, there's a difference between the boosters doing the dirty work, and the school itself lying to the NCAA and covering it up.

It's like Nixon and Watergate, Clinton's impeachment and Obama/Benghazi... it's not necessarily the original crime, it's the cover-up and lies that gets you into trouble.

A&M flat-out lied to the NCAA. Repeatedly. So did SMU.

I have yet to see one instance of the NCAA saying that Texas was anything but cooperative in the investigations. Instead, it's whine whine whine.

Newsflash: You fricking lied to the NCAA several times. No remorse, no "we'll take our punishment," very few if any self-reported violations. Your "internal reports" whitewashed the whole matters.

You lied. Deal with it.

Yet another example, for the slow-witted:

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Warren Gilbert Jr. told the Dallas Morning News that Coach R.C. Slocum, former vice president Robert Smith and others convinced him not to meet with investigators.

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LINK

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Now, I have a question for CGSC Lobotomy.

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-Two major conferences ended (SWC, Big 8) as a result of their actions

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Explain this one.

How did Texas kill the Southwest Conference? I'd like to hear your version of this, please.

Also, the Big 8 did not end, it expanded.

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Three other schools were abandoned and left for dead (SMU, Houston, Rice) One was thrown a life-raft 19 years later (TCU)

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Seriously? You aggies have been looking to jump to the SEC for 20 years, and reneged on your pledge to stay in the Big 12, leaving small schools like Baylor in limbo. You are no saint in this matter of leaving behind Texas schools.