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re: How do you see the game plans for Ala and LSU unfolding?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:17 am to WreckinRams05
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:17 am to WreckinRams05
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Have you watched Clemson this year? Trevor hasn’t exactly lived up to the hype. Burrow has shined in every big game this year
These are completely different QB styles. Burrow is like Joe Montana- very accurate passer, but not a cannon for an arm. Trevor is like Brett Favre- a cannon, sometimes overconfident in his abilities and carelessly throws into double and triple coverage at times. You can win with either. Tua is like both wrapped in 1.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:05 am to CtrlAltDel
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. In reality, Alabama's defense is better
LSU has played Auburn, Florida and Texas. Respectable and recognizable teams.
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Nope, again it's just in that stupid brain of a stupid poster that lsu runs the ball better than Bama.
Rinse and repeat.
Alabama has played A&M. That’s it.
This doesn’t mean that Alabama won’t win this weekend. It just simply means that you can’t compare statistics because the schedule that LSU has played is far superior to Alabama’s schedule at this point.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 7:08 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:39 am to Will Cover
Alabama’s starting four freshmen on defense who haven’t been tested. The trial by fire comes this a Saturday, Joe will light them up!
Posted on 11/5/19 at 7:55 am to TidenUP
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I won't be surprised to see a low scoring, defensive game. Both offenses are capable of putting up a lot of points but I wouldn't be surprised to see both defenses play their best games of the year.
I would be very surprised.
I would love it.
But I would be very surprised.
God, I still want to beleive defense wins championships.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:09 am to CtrlAltDel
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Well, that's just in TrueTigerTale's brain. In reality, Alabama's defense is better.
Those stats are extremely close to a wash, and it pushes LSU ahead once weighted against average total offense rank of opponents. Alabama has faced an average of 84 ranked offenses while LSU has faced the 70 average.
Taking that into consideration doesn't really make Bama look as dominant.
Don't have time to crunch defenses faced, feel free.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:21 am to skrayper
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LSU opponents have too easy a time throwing the ball to bother running
Sigh, wrong again, you may want to start fact checking before spewing at the mouth.
Alabama yields on average 14.18 yards per completion. LSU is at 13.54. Therefore it has literally been easier to gain yards passing on Bama. Nice try though.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:24 am to TrueTigerTale
I'm not going to sit here and get into a pissing match with LSU fans about who has a better QB, RB, WR's, Secondary, etc. The fact of the matter is these areas are all close enough that we're all going to say that the team we pull for is better in those areas.
Having said that, Bama will win this game the same reason they always do, Our offensive line has an advantage on your defensive line, and our defensive line has an advantage on your offensive line. Somehow over the last few weeks you guys have convinced yourself that bama "doesn't have the dudes" up front that Auburn has and that it won't be a difficult task to block them.
Raekwon Davis is 6'7" 310 first round pick and has given LSU fits his whole career. Jennings and Lewis are the best pair of edge rushers that LSU will see this season and it isn't particularly close. You won't be able to block those guys one-on-one. Extra guys in protection = fewer guys running routes = more defenders in coverage. Outside of the center there just isn't a really good offensive lineman wearing white on saturday. We make this game a lot more complicated than it is some times. Football is throwing, catching, blocking, and tackling. I think our dudes can block your dudes and your dudes can't block our dudes.
Having said that, Bama will win this game the same reason they always do, Our offensive line has an advantage on your defensive line, and our defensive line has an advantage on your offensive line. Somehow over the last few weeks you guys have convinced yourself that bama "doesn't have the dudes" up front that Auburn has and that it won't be a difficult task to block them.
Raekwon Davis is 6'7" 310 first round pick and has given LSU fits his whole career. Jennings and Lewis are the best pair of edge rushers that LSU will see this season and it isn't particularly close. You won't be able to block those guys one-on-one. Extra guys in protection = fewer guys running routes = more defenders in coverage. Outside of the center there just isn't a really good offensive lineman wearing white on saturday. We make this game a lot more complicated than it is some times. Football is throwing, catching, blocking, and tackling. I think our dudes can block your dudes and your dudes can't block our dudes.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:34 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I respect your opinion on how good your Dline is, but disagree. Davis is a monster and will have to be gameplanned for. The rest are decent not great SEC linemen.
LSU'S offensive line has improved greatly since the beginning of the season and while I am sure Bama will get pressure at times, it wont decide this game. Burrow has been brilliant under pressure and I don't expect him to all of a sudden become scared just because the guys rushing him have a crimson jersey on.
ETA- Florida, Auburn, hell even LSU have more sack and QB pressures than Bama. Even though all have faced a much stronger SOS to date than Bama. Its obvious blocking your front hasn't been a huge issue for anyone else.
LSU'S offensive line has improved greatly since the beginning of the season and while I am sure Bama will get pressure at times, it wont decide this game. Burrow has been brilliant under pressure and I don't expect him to all of a sudden become scared just because the guys rushing him have a crimson jersey on.
ETA- Florida, Auburn, hell even LSU have more sack and QB pressures than Bama. Even though all have faced a much stronger SOS to date than Bama. Its obvious blocking your front hasn't been a huge issue for anyone else.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:35 am to TrueTigerTale
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I wouldn’t be surprised if LSU wins by 10, LSUs defense is better than Bama’s so is LSU’s ability to maintain long drives on offense. Alabama hasn’t shown it can run as well as LSU.
Did you say that with a straight face? Your defensive LOS has been struggling throughout the season and lost another serviceable backup lineman when he up and quit last week. Divinity is gone in the same fashion this week and Delpit is going to be gimpy if he can go at all.
Getting stops in this game is an absolute premium and regardless of how tone-deaf the purple people choose to be there is a real big and familiar Crimson train at the end of that light that's got you blinded.
Just hope that bit of reality didn't get in the way too much with your frequent bouts of illusions of grandeur?
Please continue.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:42 am to pitbull20
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Davis is a monster and will have to be gameplanned for. The rest are decent not great SEC linemen.
If we're talking about the other interior linemen then yes. Dale, Eboigbe, Mathis are all decent but not spectacular. Barmore has spectacular ability but is inconsistent. In our defense, you might as well call the OLB's defensive ends. They both spend more time going forward than backwards and one of them is usually doing it with his hand strarting in the dirt. It's a 3-4 in name because there are 4 "linebackers" but make no mistake, they are going to stick their hand in the dirt and come after Burrow. Lewis leads the league in sacks despite missing several games. Jennings has been a great pass rusher since he got to bama. They're on the field together now, and they have been a problem for every offense.
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while I am sure Bama will get pressure at times, it wont decide this game. Burrow has been brilliant under pressure and I don't expect him to all of a sudden become scared just because the guys rushing him have a crimson jersey on.
I don't expect him to be scared either, but bama is going to get pressure with 3 or 4. That means numbers in coverage helping out a secondary littered with first rounders. The windows will be tighter than they've been all season. I don't care if we don't sack him at all. We're going to pressure him with 3 and 4 and that leads to mistakes at every level of football
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:57 am to TrueTigerTale
I believe the team who tackles best, wins.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 8:58 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:58 am to pitbull20
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Florida, Auburn, hell even LSU have more sack and QB pressures than Bama. Even though all have faced a much stronger SOS to date than Bama. Its obvious blocking your front hasn't been a huge issue for anyone else.
Have a link to that? Can't find anything on hurries- but Lewis didn't start playing full time until game 4 against Ole Miss and has racked up 5 sacks in 4 games since then. He's our best pass rusher, so may want to take season long numbers with a grain of salt- we won't even touch on LSU's sack leader leaving the team
We'll find out saturday- I'm just going off what I've seen and I think our offensive line will fare a lot better than yours, thus we will win the game again
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:00 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:02 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I don't expect him to be scared either, but bama is going to get pressure with 3 or 4. That means numbers in coverage helping out a secondary littered with first rounders. The windows will be tighter than they've been all season. I don't care if we don't sack him at all. We're going to pressure him with 3 and 4 and that leads to mistakes at every level of football
No one has consistently been able to get pressure on this LSU team with 3 and 4 all season. So serious question why do you think it will be different with Alabama. The talent level this O-Line has seen this year for once is at the very least equal to anything Bama has in their base
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:06 am to mindbreaker
I do not think I appreciated how elusive Burrow can be, as well. I knew he was tough, but damn, there were multiple times during the AU game when I thought "oh we got him now" and he would evade and then torch us with a pass.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:42 am to mindbreaker
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So serious question why do you think it will be different with Alabama
*Veteran edge rushers that are elite athletes and have developed a repertoire of pass rush moves rather than relying on something that's easy to see on film and say "okay, stop the outside speed rush." Deculus has not seen a player like Terrell Lewis. Give Chaisson 2 inches, 10 pounds, and 3 or 4 good moves and you've got Terrell Lewis. He's a big game player and took over the 4th quarter against Georgia in 2017. He's never gotten to play against LSU. He's a first round pick and I don't think Deculus can hold up all night. That's reason #1. Terrell Lewis
*Saban is considered a defensive genius for a reason. There will be stunts and blitzes Saturday that aren't on film.
*Say what you will about the officials, but LSU got away with a lot clear holds in the Auburn game or else they would have gotten considerable pressure all day. There's a video floating around with 9 or 10 that were not flagged. Those 9 or 10 won't be flagged in tuscaloosa either, but you can expect 3 or 4 of them to be correctly called.
LSU is giving up around 2 sacks per game. Alabama presents a unique look with a different type of athlete in the pass rush. Guys like Zuniga, Kinlaw, Brown, Bryant, Davidson..they're all great players in this league but cut a bit from the same cloth.
This is a different type of player that NFL GM's would build in a lab if possible
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:45 am to higgs_boson
LSU’s QB is often underestimated so is Clyde at runningback
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:54 am to TrueTigerTale
I hinestly Don’t see either team sacrificing being effective on offense to control the clock.
LSU has been more balanced lately but teams have been doing more to take away deep shots so the deeper safeties dictate more run plays and short passes.
If either team gives a favorable look for a deep shot I think Either will take them as often as they see them.
LSU has been more balanced lately but teams have been doing more to take away deep shots so the deeper safeties dictate more run plays and short passes.
If either team gives a favorable look for a deep shot I think Either will take them as often as they see them.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:01 am to Riseupfromtherubble
LSU has given up its share of sacks but we’re weirdly good at protecting Joe when don’t give up a sack.
He’s got one of the lower % of throws under pressure
LSU’s passing game is different in that it’s no longer as predictable.
It used to be a 3rd and long situation and you could just pin your ears back and go, and after a couple sacks defend a screen that you knew was coming.
Against Florida (leads the conference in sacks) we did a very good job of mixing plays. Keeping defenses off balance.
We also get the ball out a lot faster.
He’s got one of the lower % of throws under pressure
LSU’s passing game is different in that it’s no longer as predictable.
It used to be a 3rd and long situation and you could just pin your ears back and go, and after a couple sacks defend a screen that you knew was coming.
Against Florida (leads the conference in sacks) we did a very good job of mixing plays. Keeping defenses off balance.
We also get the ball out a lot faster.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:05 am to TidenUP
quote:This is where I am...I have seen signs of LSU slowing down, especially in third downs and redzone.
I won't be surprised to see a low scoring, defensive game. Both offenses are capable of putting up a lot of points but I wouldn't be surprised to see both defenses play their best games of the year.
I also think LSU will take away the short stuff and challenge Tua to deliver accurate balls down field while still not 100%.....without the short stuff wide open all day I just see the game slowing down.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:06 am to TrueTigerTale
If either team plays conservatively, they will lose. This game will be one by those willing to sling it, steal possessions, and keep the foot on the gas pedal.
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