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re: How did the SEC get this bad?

Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
10911 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Meyer left Spurrier, Miles and Richt declined and left


This
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22568 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:38 pm to
They tried to climb the ladder and be Alabama and broke their necks falling down.




Posted by tigerwith3
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2011
1384 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:00 pm to
I don't know about other programs in the sec, but LSU's administration does not care to be elite. They are satisfied with allowing former players, fans and the good ole boys steer the direction of the program.
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2700 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:03 pm to
I'd say lets see how the bowls shake out first. It is never easy to diagnose how good the conference is just by inter-conference games. Once we let the dust settle, you will have a better idea.

I'm not saying one way or another, lets just see. I could see the SEC winning most of our games OR shitting the bed.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6937 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:17 pm to
Auburn - injuries and mental lapses in coaching
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:30 pm to
quote:



So much faith in the binder.


Objectively speaking Coach O will most likely have better results than Les did over the last 4 years.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Sans Bama, the SEC is a dumpster fire
see, I said this early in the season.

I was told I only thought that because LSU sucks this year.

The SEC has 1 good team, 6 mediocre teams, and the rest are awful.

To still say there is prestige in playing an SEC conference schedule is laughably absurd.

If it weren't for Bama, we wouldn't even be a P5.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:34 pm to
Off year, but the SEC will resurge.

AAC has 5-6 teams that can win 10 games this year depending on bowl outcomes, same for Big 10.

Much more parity in college football these days.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:34 pm to
Bama not sharing the wealth
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

crazycubes


The butthurt is strong with this one.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54039 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:38 pm to
We simply quit and are no longer trying it seems.

The ball is in the rest of the Big Six's hands to get better.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
64980 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
shite happens, man. Cycles.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

see, I said this early in the season.

I was told I only thought that because LSU sucks this year.

The SEC has 1 good team, 6 mediocre teams, and the rest are awful.

To still say there is prestige in playing an SEC conference schedule is laughably absurd.

If it weren't for Bama, we wouldn't even be a P5.
I remember you saying this early in the season and I remember you getting chastised for it. You were right, and you detected it early.

The proof is in the pudding, and the end result shows that the batch this year was thin and watery.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14096 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:08 pm to
Coaching, Strength & Conditioning (every school does the same shite these days), recruiting services (they miss a lot), and smarts.
Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Meyer left Spurrier, Miles and Richt declined and left


It's 100% coaching. Of course better players make teams better. But coaches are responsible for identifying talent, recruiting them to their school, coaching/developing the players up to their potential, and turning that talent into wins. Great coaches will elevate the school they are at to their maximum potential.

IMO the best coaches in college football are: Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, David Shaw, Bobby Petrino, Jimbo, Dabo, and Chris Peterson. Based on that list it's pretty obvious why the SEC might be down and why the BIG looks like the best conference this year.

During the SEC's run we had 4 of the coaches listed above in our conference. Add to that Spurrier, Richt, Miles, and Dan Mullen (who I think is a great coach and probably elevated Miss State to their ceiling as a program), and it's easy to see what has changed recently. Not to mention that at some point during the SEC's run alot of the current head coaches were coordinators at one of the SEC schools.

A lot of the current head coaches are new and will hopefully develop in to solid coaches and continue to build their program (I think Gus, Kirby, Hugh, and Muschamp) all have potenital, but none of them are there yet. Let's see where the conference is another few years.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:20 pm to
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Sans Bama, the SEC is a dumpster fire.

Some traditional powers such as UT, Florida, LSU, UGA, and Auburn are blazing dumpsters loaded onto freight cars and smashed into each other.

How did we get here?



That the SEC currently has much more "pedigree" in its basketball than football coaching ranks is one thing.

The other is that teams like LSU, Auburn and Florida all field defenses perfectly capable of being in the hunt for a playoff spot but all had mediocre to poor QB play.

Those teams aren't dumpster fires but their offenses were just not good enough to be better than middling Top25 teams at the best.


Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:27 pm to
Where does the SEC rank in terms of conference strength in your opinion?


I know that the SEC West from a talent standpoint has never been better top to bottom.
Posted by roger79
Welcome Home, Scott
Member since Dec 2012
3226 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:30 pm to
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LSU almost wasn't a dumpster fire Very probably should have been a 10-2 season. Thanks Les.


Quit embarrassing yourself. LSU was 7-4 on merit. And it's a dumpster fire now that we've hired the interim head coach/defensive line coach.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:31 pm to
Les Miles stayed the same.
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3148 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:17 pm to
Honestly Urban Meyer faked a condition, Miles got more retarded on offense, Spurrier got old, Petrino motorcycle'd and Richt finally lost all control.

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