re: How did Franklin get away from the SEC?

Da frick? No. not amicable. Was Vandy committing like Penn State? No. But they had paid him a lot of money and were willing to compete on pay. They built him his indoor practice facility and the gave him beautiful new locker rooms. The stadium was and is the hardest but to crack. He left because the best chance to compete at a high level was PSU and in my opinion he knew Ole Miss was wasn't going to stay as bad as the were at the end of the nutt years, ut would fire Dooley and otherwise his schedule would get harder. It was unlikely he would ever get a better shot at the big time and psu was calling. I don't begrudge him that but I do begrudge him holing up in his beach house and not answering the phone when Vandy called even though they were still paying him. He was telling recruits he was leaving while working out the details with psu and offering them spots even though he was on the Vandy payroll at the time. frick him.

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Given that he made a point of trying to bring the players he recruited on Vandy's dime with him to PSU, "VERY amicably" isn't exactly accurate.

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In fairness, not much in this thread is accurate.

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Had he stayed at Vandy, he would rule the east right now.

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lolno. Had he stayed he'd have had the same year Mason did. Franklin knew the roster was depleted and got out on a high note. Franklin relied on a stockpile of redshirts from the prior coaching staff and leveraged a very seasoned RS Senior led team to victory over weakened competitors. However, those guys were leaving and Franklin hadn't done much to replace them. His own recruiting was never that good -- Mason brought in Vandy's highest rated recruit ever before his first season was played (after Franklin was gone) and since brought in far better classes than Franklin ever did.

Until mid-season of this year, Penn State fans wanted him gone badly. Franklin is decent coach but is pretty well overhyped. He'd have been a great hire for a few SEC schools but he ain't all that and a box of chocolates as he's often made out.

Franklin had a couple of classes in the low 20s. Mason hasn't had anything close to that. McSorely was headed to Vandy until Franklin left, for example. Vandenburg coming to Vandy was the beginning of the end for Franklin.

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Franklin had a couple of classes in the low 20s. Mason hasn't had anything close to that. McSorely was headed to Vandy until Franklin left, for example. Vandenburg coming to Vandy was the beginning of the end for Franklin.

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Those classes of his were like Kiffin's one class at UT. Gone before you blinked and Vandenburg was probably the most emblematic of that. Mason has done a better job putting together classes that can both ball and actually remain on campus for more than a month. Franklin always got more hype and will always be a bigger personality than Mason. He was a better coach from Day 1 than Mason and still is but in fairness Mason had never been a HC and Franklin benefited from a set of circumstances with both the talent there and the decimation of teams via injury that won't come around many times if ever again.

Franklin was also a pos human who fricked Vandy on the way out. No respect for a guy like that.

You do know that USCw is about as good as Arkansas.

Franklin was a POS but to say he couldn't recruit a solid class is just not true. The RS seniors of this year's team were on campus as Vandy beat UT 3 out of 5 years. Unheard of before he got here. Many of the key pieces of this year's team were Franklin recruits.

Those recruits weren't the reason Vandy won.


Sorry I stepped on your Franklin fanboy button tho. We still have Kiffin fanboys that thought seven wins is teh greatest thing ever.

Yeah all those championships the big 10 has won recently has really proved they are the best conference. especially the dominant performances by Michigan State and Ohio State in the playoffs in back to back years.