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re: How can they fix the bowls?

Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18757 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:20 am to
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Or are they dead?


They are dead. Bowl games should be playoff games only.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58943 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:20 am to
All this opting out crap is killing what made college football so special, and that’s a direct result of putting so much emphasis on the playoffs, yet not increasing the field to include more teams in it, which if that’s the direction CFB is going in, then just do away with the bowls entirely and go all playoffs with wild card games and the like. People want something to play for, and since bowls are seen as consolation prizes now, what’s the point of them?

I really hate to see what’s happened to the bowls and CFB in general, but then again, we had to tinker with things, and this is the fallout from that.


Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5702 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:23 am to
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Move transfer portal to after bowls.


This is the easiest thing to do. It may not solve all the issues, but then at least some of the "meaningless" Bowl games would be auditions for guys looking to enter the portal. Way more guys enter the portal than spots available. We just hear about the pretty big names...but how many portal guys leave a scholarship and then don't get another offer once in the portal? A lot more of those guys than the ones getting a million bucks to switch teams in this awful college free agency era.

2020 was such a shitty year for the future of college football... and for the country in general.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33056 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:26 am to
Pay the players to play in the games. It’s not hard.
Posted by RockyMtnJacket
Member since Sep 2023
45 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:56 am to
Go back to 11 game seasons, smaller conferences, auto invites for conf champs, at large to fill out a 16 team field. Higher seed gets home field. Not complicated. Works for FCS and NFL. Let bowl sponsors cut deals to host games at “neutral” sites if they want. But get the product right; the current system is destroying it.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10989 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:05 am to
ANY path forward which does NOT include more 'on campus' games, would be B.S. ! To demand fans to trave$ to multiple sites is simply horse-sh$% !
Posted by Kenny Stapler
Member since Dec 2023
175 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:22 pm to
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That’s what I was thinking.


The better the bowl the better the pay.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8179 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:45 pm to
Except for the playoffs, push them to late spring and bill them as spring exhibition games.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7273 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:50 pm to
Most of them pit teams against each other that haven’t had a lot of success….those are going to be what they are no matter what. Some will match up teams on the come and those will be interesting. The fix is for 8 of them to pit the best 16 teams in the nation in the playoffs. The first round would be some dogs but the second and subsequent games would be as good as it gets. Byes for conference championships is ridiculous because winning the ACC or the Big10 is not the same as winning the SEC. It’s fixable but they gonna insist on continuing the beauty contest and do permanent damage to the second most popular past time in Ameria
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49267 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:50 pm to
If the schools want to participate in Bowls, then the NIL contracts are going to have to be structured where there's a penalty for not finishing the season if the team is invited to a bowl.


This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by HogsOfWar
Member since Jan 2015
1144 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:55 pm to
Bowls are dead.

Back when "Division 1" was still a thing, Div II and Div III did not get bowls as those Divisions had these things called "playoffs" instead.

With playoffs a thing starting next year in what used to be Div 1, bowls no longer have any reason to exist.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15532 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Bowls are dead


They should have been dead long ago, pointless and dumb. Expand the playoffs like FCS and get rid of the dumb bowls.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20493 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:07 pm to
They are dead to real football fans. As long as enough people watch to sell advertising the high number of shitty bowl games will continue.

Just how it is.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19228 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:29 pm to

1. Eliminate many of the bowls. There are simply too many.

2. Those who structure NIL deals can back load them so players are incented to play.

3. Change portal date to after the season.

4. Go back to pre Covid rules of the portal.

5. I like the idea of using CFP and some of the remaining bowls as part of playoff locations.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8338 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Pay the players a bonus to play in them? Maybe even a performance bonus?


Why not? Unlike college football in general, bowls have since their inception been nothing but a transparently blatant marketing money grab. They want to survive, they need a better product. A better product could be had by ensuring the best players play. Hell, pay the winning players more than the losing players and let them compete for it.

You don't watch the Sun Bowl? Make that bitch winner take all with a wheelbarrow full of 85 shrink wrapped bricks of cold hard cash, and the ratings will sky rocket. You want a brick of cash? Win the game. Loser takes a bus home.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14496 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:52 pm to
They need to adjust the calendar so that the non-playoff bowl games are completed prior to opening the transfer portal. The opt outs are what they are but if you make the portal AFTER the season ends I think you’d have a lot less players sitting out than we saw this season.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5974 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 1:56 pm to
1. Fewer bowl games

Most are not compelling. To do what I think is necessary, it is going to involve more prudent use of money from ESPN.

2. No conference tie-ins

The conference tie-ins are the chief reason the matchups are not compelling and often repeated in the upper-middle bowls. How many times have Wisconsin or Iowa and LSU played each other? Just roll the bowls under the CFP banner and largely share the revenue between the conferences/teams.

3. The bowls extend NIL contracts to the players

Gift bags and a trip to a local tourist venue is not enough. ESPN needs to seed the bowls with money to better encourage participation. For big time athletes, they can negotiate bigger deals.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 1:58 pm
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