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re: How are the expansion projects coming?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:45 am to David Cornwell
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:45 am to David Cornwell
LSU/BR is about to start a huge project in that area in the bottom of that picture. Should be pretty nice once done...in 10 years.
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:48 am to lsufball19
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However, the most recent study,
and here's my study that says your study is wrong..
LINK
synopsis of conclusion:
In sum, 465 collegiate games were evaluated for game-related football injuries sustained on FieldTurf or natural grass
during 3 seasons. Overall, 230 team games (49.5%) were played on FieldTurf versus 235 team games (50.5%) played on natural
grass. A total of 2253 injuries were documented, with 1050 (46.6%) occurring during play on FieldTurf, and 1203 (53.4%) on
natural grass. Multivariate analysis per 10 team games indicated significantly lower total injury incidence rates, F(3, 2249) 5
3.468, P 5 .016, n – b 5 0.778, on FieldTurf, 45.7 (95% confidence interval [CI], 44.2-46.3), versus natural grass, 51.2 (95%
CI, 49.8-51.7). Significantly lower minor injury incidence rates, 38.0 (95% CI, 36.9-38.5) versus 39.9 (95% CI, 39.1-40.0, P 5
.001), substantial injury incidence rates, 5.0 (95% CI, 4.3-5.6) versus 7.2 (95% CI, 6.6-7.7, P 5 .020), and severe injury
incidence rates, 2.7 (95% CI, 2.1-3.3) versus 4.1 (95% CI, 3.5-4.1; P 5 .049), were documented on FieldTurf versus natural grass,
respectively. Multivariate analyses also indicated significantly less trauma on FieldTurf when comparing injury time loss, injury
situation, grade of injury, injuries under various field conditions, and temperature. No significant differences in head, knee, or
shoulder trauma were observed between playing surfaces.
Plenty of pro teams with outdoor stadiums also play on field turf, esp the teams that like to run and use speed, but I'm sure they don't know what they're doing right..
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:50 am to bbap
Development wise, this is what I've heard that is going on in BR.
and now a technology center
Then this for River District
and now a technology center
Then this for River District
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:51 am to twk
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Fake stuff is pathetic. No excuse for anyone in the SEC to have that crap.
Field turf > Dead, painted grass two months into football season.
If it's good enough for the Falcons, the Colts, and the Patriots I think it'll be ok at Kentucky.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:54 am to DynastyDawg
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.
How do y'all feel about it?
I'm pretty happy with it actually. I was a trainer for a college when they went to FieldTurf and it was a great move. As said, the only complaint was the occasional cleat issue with pellets but it's great for the climate up here.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:56 am to David Cornwell
Plus the Water Research District which is probably the biggest of them all
Also add Nicholson Corridor & The Standard
Also add Nicholson Corridor & The Standard
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:56 am to Jagd Tiger
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Jagd Tiger
um, that study doesn't say anything about knee injuries specifically, which is what i was responding to.
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Plenty of pro teams with outdoor stadiums also play on field turf, esp the teams that like to run and use speed, but I'm sure they don't know what they're doing right..
and plenty of NFL teams use natural grass too, but i'm sure they don't know what they're doing right...
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:00 pm to David Cornwell
i hadnt seen those pics. Thanks. That's probably stuff closer to downtown. The area right there next to LSU i believe is going be strip mall esque. I'm imagining similar to the area by Walkons.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
There are actually tons of conflicting studies on the increased ankle and knee injuries on turf. Some say the newer generations of FieldTurf can be safer.
Personally, there's probably too many variables to say one way or another given the increase in physicality among players over the years and wear/tear among players who have grown up among long established tackle football leagues.
LINK
Personally, there's probably too many variables to say one way or another given the increase in physicality among players over the years and wear/tear among players who have grown up among long established tackle football leagues.
LINK
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
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um, that study doesn't say anything about knee injuries specifically, which is what i was responding to.
well, actually it does:
"No significant differences in head, knee, or
shoulder trauma were observed between playing surfaces."
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Field turf > Dead, painted grass two months into football season.
That may be the case.
And any program whose field maintenance crew allows their playing surface to become nothing but "dead, painted grass" ought to fired.
Our grass is like butter--year round.
But I certainly understand that the northern-most climates can cause huge headaches for some programs.
I'm sure those decisions are strategic.
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“It’s so much more comfortable for the players,” Goertz says, noting that in mid summer through mid October, it was not unusual for the artificial turf surface to reach temperatures of 160° F or higher. Over the same timeframe, natural grass surfaces have averaged 50° F cooler. Given the amount of concrete in the stadium and how it absorbs heat from the sun, the natural grass field also helps keep fans more comfortable, Goertz adds.
“If you have a good contractor and specs, you can build a tremendous natural surface that can stand up to the wear and tear of football games,” Goertz says, as he looks forward to the 2014 football season.
Winning Strategy - Texas A&M’s Kyle Field Benefits From Natural Grass In More Ways Than One
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:04 pm to EKG
And Texas A&M doesn't have to fight the change in weather that we do here in Kentucky. You know, things like snow? You can't just throw some water and fertilizer at it to keep it alive in below freezing temps.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:04 pm to EKG
why did you name the link?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:05 pm to Jagd Tiger
So you initially say this:
Then back that up with a study whose conclusion is this:
I guess I'm missing where you proved your point.
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As far as footing goes, well ask a player if he likes the chance of real grass divoting when he cuts and blowing out his ACL? That really won't happen on new field turf.
Then back that up with a study whose conclusion is this:
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"No significant differences in head, knee, or
shoulder trauma were observed between playing surfaces."
I guess I'm missing where you proved your point.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
Absolutely.
Which was what I was trying to say in my post.
I have no doubt that those decisions are site-based and contextual--as they should be.
Which was what I was trying to say in my post.
I have no doubt that those decisions are site-based and contextual--as they should be.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I always name the link.
Search every single post I've made.
Helps people to decide whether or not they want to click it.
Search every single post I've made.
Helps people to decide whether or not they want to click it.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
i used to hate field turf but really dont care anymore. if you want to use field turf then by all means. just dont put it on a baseball field and put a big logo in centerfield like it's some damn softball diamond (Texas).
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:08 pm to bbap
All of it is downtown. I haven't seen any new news about them breaking ground on the LSU campus yet. When I head down there, I'll take some pics and post. I couldn't think of any unless they're thinking of removing the parking, and decide to put in some retail stores there.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:08 pm to Jagd Tiger
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"No significant differences in head, knee, or
shoulder trauma were observed between playing surfaces."
so how does that make field turf safer than grass, which is what you claimed?
furthermore, so the two studies differ in their results. ok, great. what makes the study you linked more valid?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:09 pm to David Cornwell
Oh, you're talking about near the golf course though aren't you?
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