re: Honest discussion about NIL. Would love to hear thoughts.

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When a full ride scholarship, free room/board, etc…become irrelevant ,….then things have gone off a ledge

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You say these things like it is some sort of surprise. It is a FACT that these things have an insignificant value when compared to the salary paid to head coaches like Nick Saban. Now that the players are having that value/money come to them via NIL all sorts of people that were getting it (like Nick Saban) are saying how terrible it is,….too damn bad. It has been this way for the last 10-20 years, and admins and coaches stuck their heads in the sand and collected their millions of dollars. This mess should be blamed on those people, not the players that are finally getting some value from a system that was rewarding the wrong people.

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So they’re now able to do the exact same thing coaches have been doing

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Preach on…..

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Ah. so what person is responsible for determining said value? I’ll answer that for you…..it’s the person who is willing to pay said value. But the “oh no see that’s different!” argument is fricking hilarious.

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The players aren't worth more, they are easily replaceable and are replaced constantly.

Coaches on the other hand are not as replaceable. Because they are more valuable, have way more responsibilities and their jobs require much more expertise. And their contracts include buyouts and other protections for the schools.

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Says the guy angry that two consenting parties are able to negotiate terms of payment.

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False. The schools and the players have always come to the terms of the compensation for play sports. They play football, they get a scholarship with the benefits. That is the terms of payment. Nobody forces them to take it, they take it because it's a great opportunity.

You are the one saying they can no longer do that. You are the one that claims the schools have no rights in what they offer, have no protections for the resources they invest in them, and no rights to form a set of uniform rules among other schools to create a fair competitive product of which has created all the interest and revenue the sport generates in the first place.

Don't sit here and tell me you are for "capitalism" while using the government to remove any rights and protections for one of the parties involved, and are destroying the product they created which has produced the revenue to begin with.

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Shouldn’t you be starting your own league in another country so you can limit how much money people can make? Or are you just going to keep crying about it?

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Why? You're the idiot who thinks the draw is the players and not the schools. Without the schools, it's meaningless. So in what way would me creating another league without the schools prove my point of view?

You on the other hand don't need the schools, so all you have to do is tap into the recruiting stream. So if you want to put real capitalism to work, instead of using the government to force outcomes, you create the NCAA competitor that makes a better offer than what they are getting.

Maybe next you can get your lawmakers to pass laws that say teams from Mississippi can play 12 people on offense and defense but opponents can't and Ole Miss can finally win something for the first time ever.

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The players aren't worth more, they are easily replaceable and are replaced constantly.

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Free market capitalism says differently.

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False. The schools and the players have always come to the terms of the compensation for play sports. They play football, they get a scholarship with the benefits. That is the terms of payment. Nobody forces them to take it, they take it because it's a great opportunity.

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Imagine thinking that revenue can ONLY come from one source.

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You are the one saying they can no longer do that. You are the one that claims the schools have no rights in what they offer, have no protections for the resources they invest in them, and no rights to form a set of uniform rules among other schools to create a fair competitive product of which has created all the interest and revenue the sport generates in the first place.

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Nope. I never said any of the above. You’re just making that shite up.

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Don't sit here and tell me you are for "capitalism" while using the government to remove any rights and protections for one of the parties involved

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You keep repeating this as if it’s true. Stop making shite up. The government isn’t removing anyone’s rights or protections.

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instead of using the government to force outcomes

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You’re doing it again.

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Why? You're the idiot who thinks the draw is the players and not the schools. Without the schools, it's meaningless. So in what way would me creating another league without the schools prove my point of view? You on the other hand don't need the schools, so all you have to do is tap into the recruiting stream. So if you want to put real capitalism to work, instead of using the government to force outcomes, you create the NCAA competitor that makes a better offer than what they are getting.

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I don’t have to start any other league. You’re the one crying like an idiotic bitch about NIL. And yes, NIL is a fine example of free market capitalism.

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Maybe next you can get your lawmakers to pass laws that say teams from Mississippi can play 12 people on offense and defense but opponents can't and Ole Miss can finally win something for the first time ever.

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And there it is…..the full meltdown of someone who has lost all ability of logical thought.


Why are you even still here? You obviously hate what college sports has turned into. What happened to those other hobbies you said you had?

We get it you dont like paying players. Its funny because yall did it for years and had no problem with it but now that it is legal for all schools to do it you hate it.

Tell your friends that we all get why the BBN is upset and we dont need a new post about the subject everytime you lose a player to a school with deeper pockets

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Also, should schools now push back a bit? Schools pay you as an employee, you now pay for your own tuition, room, board, meals, insurance, etc.

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Then one school says you get paid AND get all that free and they win the recruiting battle.

Without the rules that all pro teams play within, it will still be a bidding war.

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Free market capitalism says differently.

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Once again it is not capitalism when you aren't allowing one of the parties to set their terms. It's the opposite of capitalism.

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Imagine thinking that revenue can ONLY come from one source.

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Imagine not knowing the difference between revenue and profits.

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Nope. I never said any of the above. You’re just making that shite up.

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No, that is exactly what you are saying when you don't allow one of the parties involved to set their own terms.

You, like most idiots these days, just don't like it when the reality of your policies and opinions are pointed out. You all want to live in this bullshite fantasy world where can just run around labeling shite whatever, when the labels don't even remotely match the reality.

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You keep repeating this as if it’s true. Stop making shite up. The government isn’t removing anyone’s rights or protections.

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The government is removing the rights of the schools to enter into contracts and agreements as they see fit.

You literally want to force the schools hands on what they can and can not do. Not capitalism.

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I don’t have to start any other league. You’re the one crying like an idiotic bitch about NIL. And yes, NIL is a fine example of free market capitalism.

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Except for the part where you tell other people they can't make rules or decide from themselves how to deal with it.

If it was a free market, the schools would be able to decide for themselves how to deal with it.

Government intervention is the opposite of a free market unless it's for criminal reasons.

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And there it is…..the full meltdown of someone who has lost all ability of logical thought.

Why are you even still here? You obviously hate what college sports has turned into. What happened to those other hobbies you said you had?

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You are the one claiming people don't want it because it won't benefit it. Which means you must want it because you think you will benefit since that is your frame of reference on the topic.

But you won't. Just like your #20 class last year, Ole Miss is going to stay the team that has never accomplished shite in it's entire history. Alabama and other top teams are going to get richer, win even more than they already do and cherry pick whatever quality might be available on your otherwise shitty roster.

So if you want to use government to benefit your football team, you might want to start looking at more drastic measures.

In 10 years, Ole Miss won't even be part of the SEC any more. You don't even realize the replacements have already begun and that we will end up with a 32 team super league that breaks away from the NCAA. When you turn college football into a full fledge business, the rights of "students" is going to go out the window and so will any reason to keep bottom tier teams around.

Turns out, the only way Ole Miss can get top tier players is when they are the only ones that are cheating and paying players. Once it opened up, Ole Miss recruiting suddenly goes to shite. The thing people like you claimed would happen to top tier teams.

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Bama paid players for years to entice them to play at your school.now that its legal for everyone you are realizing your rich donors arent wealthy. Really not in the ball park

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It really is hilarious seeing bama fans, of all people, absolutely drenching their tampons over NIL.

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Honest discussion about NIL. Would love to hear thoughts.

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1. It is here because of the cheating of Nick Saban and a couple of his proteges. Other schools knew the NCAA would not turn a blind eye for them, the way they did Saban. NIL had to happen to remain competitive.

2. Has destroyed any illusion of "amateur athletics" in college sports.

3. The rich will dominate.

4. I am just thankful Tennessee saw this comng and now has Spyre ahead of everyone's game, but it will not take long for Alabama, Texas, Georgia etc. to get their collectives up and running at full speed.