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re: Henry > Herschel

Posted on 12/11/15 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 1:11 pm to
Hershel was the best, but Henry is closing in Bo. A couple of epic games in the playoffs will make it a discussion. Henry is killing it this year behind a mediocre line and a game manager at QB, those are facts. He has carried this offense all year.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 1:16 pm to
Tider you're crazy about your Oline! Every analyst I've heard this year says Bama has the number #1 line in the country.
Posted by DahlonegaDawg
The N. GA. Mountains
Member since Oct 2015
1158 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 1:17 pm to
That of course depends on who he plays for at the next level. Just look at All Day, has he even won a playoff game with the Vikings?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Henry is killing it this year behind a mediocre line and a game manager at QB, those are facts. He has carried this offense all year.




Dude stop, please Now if you going to say that about LSU and Fournette then you are spot on and I can say our line is better than medicore. Sorry, you dumb, those are far from facts!!
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 3:22 pm
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:27 pm to
walker only had 11 games to achieve numbers, however, he did it against slower defenses and antiquated defensive schemes. henry has done it pretty much in nfl jr. therefore henry> walker
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22531 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:31 pm to
quote:


Tider you're crazy about your Oline! Every analyst I've heard this year says Bama has the number #1 line in the country.



Ok the OL isn't as bad as some Bama fans make it out to be but it is far, far from the best in the nation. They're 98th in the nation with 84 TFLs given up. The only conssistanly good one is Ryan Kelly.

I don't think Henry is better than Walker though.
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted by DahlonegaDawg
The N. GA. Mountains
Member since Oct 2015
1158 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:32 pm to
This is beyond a joke, yea the 230lb Walker with 4.3 speed would have really struggled in today's game. Henry even in his dreams is not in Walker's class, unbelievable.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9138 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:37 pm to
Henry should never be in that discussion ever.

He is a product of the best recruiting machine in College Football, Bama has had the best O-line in the country for 4 years.

Let's see how good he is running for Vanderbilt or Kentucky.

Guys like Herschel, Sanders and Bo are in a class by themselves.

Henry will always be second tier, which ain't bad.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:54 pm to
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He is a product of the best recruiting machine in College Football, Bama has had the best O-line in the country for 4 years.



That moment when you realize that Ryan Kelly was barely a 4 star ( No. 3 Center, #235 overall), Dominick Jackson was a 4 star, Piersbacher was a 4 star, and Alphonse Taylor was a 4 star (No. 263 overall). These are kids that any school could get, and with that realization you have to choose between:

1) Elite recruiting machine and just dominant Oline
2) Mediocre Oline and superb coaching leading to dominant Oline
3) Mediocre Oline and good coaching leading to mediocre/good Oline


The answer is actually number 3 right now. Alabama's line is not very solid this year. Cam Robinson has struggled mightily, and Piersbacher is extremely young. Ryan Kelly is a great center, but he's not the reason why we're getting consistent TFLs against.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15422 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:56 pm to
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Bo is sill tGOAT, but it's safe to say that both Henry and Fournette have passed Herschel


Bo did nothing, and I do mean nothing to have anyone make the statement he was a better RB than Herschel.

College career, pro career, Herschel has it all over Bo.

Bo's one claim to fame is a mediocre professional baseball career to go with a mediocre professional football career.

And when you barners get all butthurt about that....just look at the stats.

Who ran for more yards in college? Herschel by almost 1000 yards. Did it in 3 years to Bo's 4. Want some more funny stuff? Bo had one season, one of more than 1213 yards. All 3 of Herschel's are over 1600.

Pros? Herschel. If you add in the USFL stats, Herschel has 4x the rushing yards. Total yards? Herschel has 5x the NFL numbers, again leaving out the USFL numbers.

Bo's a solid #2 in SEC RB history. But Herschel stands alone, and it ain't close. I have Henry no better than 3rd, really should probably be 4th behind DMAC.

Posted by LSU_Tigahs66
Member since Aug 2014
678 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 5:02 pm to
Henry isn't worthy of wiping Herschel Walker's arse!
Posted by Bama Eric
Member since Nov 2015
661 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 5:37 pm to
Henry faced bigger and faster defenses and done it on less carries. Derrick Henry is the greatest RB in SEC history. Deal with it.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 5:59 pm to
And how many more carries did Herschel have than Bo? Bo had a much superior YPC average than Herschel and that's a much better measure. I could outrush them both eventually if you give me enough carries, it'd just be a yard at a time.

College:
-Herschel, 5.3 YPC, 1 TD every 20 runs
-Bo, 6.6 YPC, 1 TD every 15 runs

NFL:
-Herschel, 4.2 YPC, 1 TD every 32 runs
-Bo, 5.4 YPC, 1 TD every 32 runs


And yes, Bo's baseball career was pretty mediocre after the hip replacement. Before that he was only an All-Star and one of the best fielders in history. No biggie. His NFL career was pretty mediocre considering it was a hobby he did for fun and came in halfway through the season in baseball shape and split carries with a Hall of Famer and still made the Pro Bowl.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:08 pm to
Bo's biggest claim to fame were them Bo knows commercials.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 6:24 pm to
Didn't Bo Jackson suffer a career ending injury? You can't compare his pro stats to Herschel
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15422 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:06 pm to
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Didn't Bo Jackson suffer a career ending injury? You can't compare his pro stats to Herschel


Compare the same number of years, Herschel smokes Bo.

Pro, College, same difference.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15422 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

And how many more carries did Herschel have than Bo? Bo had a much superior YPC average than Herschel and that's a much better measure. I could outrush them both eventually if you give me enough carries, it'd just be a yard at a time.

College:
-Herschel, 5.3 YPC, 1 TD every 20 runs
-Bo, 6.6 YPC, 1 TD every 15 runs

NFL:
-Herschel, 4.2 YPC, 1 TD every 32 runs
-Bo, 5.4 YPC, 1 TD every 32 runs


And yes, Bo's baseball career was pretty mediocre after the hip replacement. Before that he was only an All-Star and one of the best fielders in history. No biggie. His NFL career was pretty mediocre considering it was a hobby he did for fun and came in halfway through the season in baseball shape and split carries with a Hall of Famer and still made the Pro Bowl.


Fewer TD's, Fewer yards, thanks for providing more proof Bo ranks a distant 2nd.

If ypc was an important metric, Bobby Douglas would have won the NFL MVP in 1972. BTW...ran for more yards than Bo's best season in the pros....and he was a QB. Oh yeah...and twice as many TD's.

Like most barners, you confuse potential with achievement.

Do you know what would have, could have and should have all added up together equal?

Didn't.
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
Member since Oct 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:43 pm to
I'm more stupider after reading this.
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:52 pm to
Was Herschel playing another sport in the offseason.
Posted by gstiger2233
Gulf Shores
Member since Dec 2014
346 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:09 pm to
This damn bammer is right bo sucks, every football analyst out there is just dumb as shite. I expect to see you on espn next year with all of your knowledge
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