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re: Heisman year comparison: '09 Ingram vs. '85 Jackson

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Posted by TT9
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If he lives in Louisiana I know why he's mad.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:49 pm to
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All Ingram has to do is make it to one Pro Bowl


Stopped reading right there...
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:49 pm to
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Ingram '09 > Bo '85


Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:49 pm to
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Ingram


quote:

Pro Bowl



Posted by Killean
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:50 pm to
One thing I think folks have failed to bring up..

Bowl statistics were not included in yardage and TD totals for the regular season until just a few years ago.


If we add in bowl stats (to bring Bo to 12 games total, not the 11.. which is 3 less than Ingram) we get the following:

309 carries, 1915 yards
6 catches, 146 yards

315 touches for 2061 yards (6.5 ypt)

19 touchdowns in 12 games.



Against A&M in the bowl he had 31 carries for 129 yards and 2 catches for 73 yards. He scored both Auburn touchdowns on the day.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:50 pm to
It's always good having a Lionel James and Tommy Agee to soften up defenses.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to
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All Ingram has to do is make it to one Pro Bowl to equal Jackson's NFL accolades.



That's true. Then he can begin trying to equal his baseball accolades and commercial success. I think if we gave him three lifetimes he couldn't do that. What do you think?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to
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It's always good having a Lionel James and Tommy Agee to split carries with.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to
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Stopped reading right there...


That's all you had to read. My point was it's not like Bo Jackson was the greatest RB to ever grace the NFL.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:51 pm to
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How many times did each touch the ball?



According to the OP Ingram had more touches

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Ingram:

271 rushes for 1658 yards and 17 TDs
32 receptions for 334 yards and 3 TDs

Total = 1992 yards and 20 TDs and 6.6 yards per touch


Jackson:

278 rushes for 1786 yards and 17 TDs
4 receptions for 73 yards and 0 TDs

Total = 1859 yards and 17 TDs and 6.6 yards per touch



303-282?
Posted by FlukerFlakes
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

One thing I think folks have failed to bring up..

Bowl statistics were not included in yardage and TD totals for the regular season until just a few years ago.


If we add in bowl stats (to bring Bo to 12 games total, not the 11.. which is 3 less than Ingram) we get the following:

309 carries, 1915 yards
6 catches, 146 yards

315 touches for 2061 yards (6.5 ypt)

19 touchdowns in 12 games.



Against A&M in the bowl he had 31 carries for 129 yards and 2 catches for 73 yards. He scored both Auburn touchdowns on the day.


I'll update the OP.

so, Ingram's yards per play is actually HIGHER than Bo's was.

Interesting.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:52 pm to
Ingram will never make a pro bowl.

Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory have a better shot at doing that because they are actually productive in the same exact system.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:52 pm to
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My point was it's not like Bo Jackson was the greatest RB to ever grace the NFL.


Did I miss the post in this thread where someone claimed he was the greatest RB to ever grace the NFL?
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:53 pm to
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All Ingram has to do is make it to one Pro Bowl to equal Jackson's NFL accolades.

will never happen updyke. he is hot garbage in the NFL. He isn't even the best back for the saints which is sad.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:53 pm to
Why are Lsu fans in a heisman thread, their only winner is well nothing to be proud of.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:54 pm to
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My point was it's not like Bo Jackson was the greatest RB to ever grace the NFL.




He isn't but it's hard to gauge how good he could have been due to 1) it being a hobby for him and 2) career was ended early.

The only way Ingram's career will end early is when he gets cut.
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:54 pm to
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If he lives in Louisiana I know why he's mad.

Yes, New Orleans which is better than your tenn./bama trailer fest.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:55 pm to
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Did I miss the post in this thread where someone claimed he was the greatest RB to ever grace the NFL?


No. But all it takes is one fluke season for Ingram to get into a Pro Bowl and equal what Jackson did in the NFL. You can laugh at it if you want to but it's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility.



Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:55 pm to
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The only way Ingram's career will end early is when he gets cut.


Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:55 pm to
Did you actually watch Bo play a football game?
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