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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:26 pm to FlukerFlakes
Ingram sucks. Saints fans will agree.
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:26 pm to RollTide1987
I will say this though - before Mark Ingram won the Heisman, the closest Heisman race ever was the year Bo Jackson won.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to NATidefan
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Who was Bo's backup? Was he having to split carries with a Trent Richardson like player?
Brent fullwood
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to dawgdayafternoon
Ingram may not have had Bo's athleticism. But it's hard to argue the stats. He clearly had a better season than Bo's heisman campaign. At the very least, Ingram was an extremely deserving Heisman winner.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to TideSatchel
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also worth pointing out that Ingram put up those numbers while leading his team to a national championship, something bo was never good enough to do.
I think you spelled "21-0" wrong.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:27 pm to TideSatchel
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also worth pointing out that Ingram put up those numbers while leading his team to a national championship, something bo was never good enough to do.
In fact, Bo '85 got stuffed by that Aggie Wrecking Crew in the CB.
Ingram '09 >> Bo '85
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:28 pm to TTsTowel
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He isn't being serious.
Have you seen some of FlukerFlakes posts?
I'm not so sure...
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:28 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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Ingram sucks. Saints fans will agree.
The Saints don't use Ingram the right way.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:28 pm to FlukerFlakes
You are on the chronic.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:28 pm to TideSatchel
You're going to have to try harder.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:28 pm to parkjas2001
This was compiled by StatTiger on AUFamily Forums:
The following is a comparison between Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams, Adrian Peterson and Darren McFadden.
Career Numbers:
Herschel Walker ……….. 5596yds-1083-57tds (36 games) 155.4 YPG / 5.17 YPC
Ron Dayne ……………... 7125yds-1220-71tds (47 games) 151.6 YPG / 5.84 YPC
Ricky Williams ………… 6592yds-1064-75tds (49 games) 134.5 YPG / 6.19 YPC
Adrian Peterson ………... 4045yds-747-41tds (31 games) 130.5 YPG / 5.41 YPG
Darren McFadden …...…. 4484yds-763-40tds (38 games) 118.0 YPG / 5.88 YPC
Bo Jackson …………..…. 4714yds-735-48tds (41 games) 114.9 YPG / 6.41 YPC
Herschel Walker, Darren McFadden, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams and Adrian Peterson had more career carries than Bo Jackson but when you focus on quality and not quantity, it paints a whole new picture. Ricky Williams had a career average of 6.19 yards per carry. McFadden averaged 5.88 yards per carry, better than Adrian Peterson’s 5.41 rushing average and Herschel Walker’s 5.17 average per carry. Ron Dayne was right behind McFadden with 5.84 yards per carry. Bo Jackson tops all four with a career average per carry of 6.41 yards. Ricky Williams possessed the best TD ratio with 1 every 14.2 carries. Bo Jackson scored a rushing touchdown every 15.3 carries, better than Dayne’s 17.2, Peterson’s 18.2, Walker’s 19.0 and McFadden’s 19.1.
Top 11 Career Games:
Dayne ……… 2798yds-355-28tds / 254.4 YPG / 7.9 YPC / 12.6 att per TD
Williams …… 2763yds-364-36tds / 251.2 YPG / 7.6 YPC / 10.1 att per TD
Walker …….. 2468yds-398-25tds / 224.4 YPG / 6.2 avg / 15.9 att per TD
Peterson …… 2231yds-321-21tds / 202.8 YPG / 6.9 avg / 15.3 att per TD
McFadden …. 2202yds-307-19tds / 200.2 YPG / 7.17 avg / 16.2 att per TD
Jackson …..... 2175yds-301-20tds / 197.7 YPG / 7.22 avg / 15.0 att per TD
Once again, Walker, Peterson, Dayne, Williams and McFadden lead in total yards with more carries than Jackson. In terms of quality, Ron Dayne had the highest yards per carry with 7.9 yards per rush and Ricky Williams possessed the best TD ratio of 1 evert 10.1 attempts.
Career Games of 20 carries or more:
Jackson ….… 2193yds-325-19tds / 182.7 YPG / 6.74 avg / 17.1 att per TD
Williams …... 4857yds-779-55tds / 179.9 YPG / 6.23 avg / 14.2 att per TD
Dayne ……... 6330yds-1075-67tds / 175.8 YPG / 5.89 avg / 16.0 att per TD
Walker …….. 5463yds-1052-57tds / 165.5 YPG /5.19 avg / 18.4 att per TD
McFadden …. 3261yds-552-24tds / 155.3 YPG / 5.90 avg / 23.0 att per TD
Peterson …… 3830yds-700-39tds / 147.3 YPG / 5.47 avg / 17.9 att per TD
Walker had 33 games of at least 20 carries, Peterson had 26 and McFadden had 21 games, compared to Bo Jackson’s 12 games. Like Walker, Ron Dayne was a workhorse with 36 career games and Ricky Williams had 27 games. Bo averaged 182.7 yards per game compared to Williams’ 179.9, Dayne’s 175.8, Walker's 165.5, McFadden’s 155.3 average and Peterson’s 147.3 yards. Bo Jackson had the better average per carry and scored more frequently except for Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams. Jackson had fewer 20-carry games because he played in the wishbone offense in 3 of his 4 seasons.
Conference Games:
Walker …….. 168.9 yds per game / 5.23 avg / 20.0 att per TD
Dayne ……… 145.4 yds per game / 5.32 avg / 20.8 att per TD
McFadden …. 128.6 yds per game / 5.63 avg / 23.8 att per TD
Williams …… 136.1 yds per game / 5.93 avg / 18.4 att per TD
Jackson …..... 113.2 yds per game / 6.27 avg / 17.2 att per TD
Peterson …… 112.1 yds per game / 5.81 avg / 14.8 att per TD
Because of more attempts, Herschel Walker, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden had a better average in yards per game than Bo Jackson and Adrian Peterson. In terms of quality, Bo Jackson had a higher average per carry than the other five backs but Adrian Peterson had the best TD ratio against conference opponents.
Number of games averaging 5 or more yards per carry:
Jackson ……. 29 of 41 (70.7%)
Williams …… 32 of 49 (65.3%)
McFadden …. 24 of 38 (63.2%)
Dayne ……… 28 of 47 (59.6%)
Peterson …… 17 of 31 (54.8%)
Walker …….. 16 of 36 (44.4%)
Number of games averaging 6 or more yards per carry:
Jackson ……. 21 of 41 (51.2%)
McFadden …. 18 of 38 (47.4%)
Williams …… 22 of 49 (44.9%)
Peterson …… 13 of 31 (41.9%)
Dayne ……... 18 of 47 (38.3%)
Walker …….. 11 of 36 (30.5%)
Number of games averaging 7 or more yards per carry:
McFadden …. 12 of 38 (31.6%)
Williams …… 14 of 49 (28.6%)
Dayne ……… 12 of 47 (25.5%)
Jackson ……. 10 of 41 (24.4%)
Peterson …… 6 of 31 (19.3%)
Walker …….. 3 of 36 (8.3%)
Games against Opponents with winning record:
During Adrian Peterson’s career, he faced a strength of schedule of .612. Bo Jackson faced a strength of schedule of .601. Darren McFadden faced a strength of schedule of .566, Ricky Williams faced a .525 and Ron Dayne was at .494. Herschel Walker had the lowest level of competition att at .485. Of Bo Jackson’s 41 games, 29 of his opponents had a winning record (70.7 pct). Peterson’s competition came from 19 teams of 31 with a winning record (61.3 pct). McFadden faced 21 of 38 (55.3 pct), Williams faced 25 of 49 (51.0 pct) and Ron Dayne faced as winning opponent in 20 of 47 games (42.5%). Herschel Walker faced only 15 of 36 (41.7 pct).
Herschel Walker …… 2253yds-470-21tds / 150.2 YPG / 4.79 YPC / 22.4 ATD
Darren McFadden ….. 2949yds-492-21tds / 140.4 YPG / 5.99 YPC / 23.4 ATD
Ron Dayne …………. 2414yds-468-18tds / 120.7 YPG / 5.16 YPC / 26.0 ATD
Adrian Peterson ……. 2285yds-452-23tds / 120.3 YPG / 5.06 YPC / 19.7 ATD
Ricky Williams ……. 2952yds-540-24tds / 118.1 YPG / 5.47 YPC / 22.5 ATD
Bo Jackson …………. 3227yds-527-31tds / 111.3 YPG / 6.12 YPC / 17.0 ATD
Herschel Walker had the best average in yards per game but Bo Jackson finished with the best yards per carry and TD ratio against the more difficult competition.
Games against Opponents with win percentage of .750 or better:
Ron Dayne (12) …………. 1394yds-282-11tds / 116.2 YPG / 4.94 YPC / 25.6 ATD
Darren McFadden (11) …. 1274yds-218-12tds / 115.8 YPG / 5.84 YPC / 18.2 ATD
Bo Jackson (13) ………… 1470yds-254-11tds / 113.1 YPG / 5.78 YPC / 23.1 ATD
Herschel Walker (6) …..…. 645yds-159-7tds / 107.5 YPG / 4.06 YPC / 22.7 ATD
Ricky Williams (11) …….. 1044yds-216-7tds / 94.9 YPG / 4.83 YPC / 30.9 ATD
Adrian Peterson (10) ……. 916yds-218-8tds / 91.6 YPG / 4.20 YPC / 27.2 ATD
Ron Dayne had the highest yards per game with 116.2 against opponents with a win percentage of at least .750. Darren McFadden had the best yards per carry and TD ratio. Bo Jackson was close behind McFadden in this category. According to the University of Texas official athletic website, Ricky Williams was a fullback during his first 2 seasons and a halfback during his final 2 years. As a fullback, Williams averaged 91.2 YPG and 183.5 YPG as a halfback.
Bowl stats are included for all the above backs.
The following is a comparison between Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams, Adrian Peterson and Darren McFadden.
Career Numbers:
Herschel Walker ……….. 5596yds-1083-57tds (36 games) 155.4 YPG / 5.17 YPC
Ron Dayne ……………... 7125yds-1220-71tds (47 games) 151.6 YPG / 5.84 YPC
Ricky Williams ………… 6592yds-1064-75tds (49 games) 134.5 YPG / 6.19 YPC
Adrian Peterson ………... 4045yds-747-41tds (31 games) 130.5 YPG / 5.41 YPG
Darren McFadden …...…. 4484yds-763-40tds (38 games) 118.0 YPG / 5.88 YPC
Bo Jackson …………..…. 4714yds-735-48tds (41 games) 114.9 YPG / 6.41 YPC
Herschel Walker, Darren McFadden, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams and Adrian Peterson had more career carries than Bo Jackson but when you focus on quality and not quantity, it paints a whole new picture. Ricky Williams had a career average of 6.19 yards per carry. McFadden averaged 5.88 yards per carry, better than Adrian Peterson’s 5.41 rushing average and Herschel Walker’s 5.17 average per carry. Ron Dayne was right behind McFadden with 5.84 yards per carry. Bo Jackson tops all four with a career average per carry of 6.41 yards. Ricky Williams possessed the best TD ratio with 1 every 14.2 carries. Bo Jackson scored a rushing touchdown every 15.3 carries, better than Dayne’s 17.2, Peterson’s 18.2, Walker’s 19.0 and McFadden’s 19.1.
Top 11 Career Games:
Dayne ……… 2798yds-355-28tds / 254.4 YPG / 7.9 YPC / 12.6 att per TD
Williams …… 2763yds-364-36tds / 251.2 YPG / 7.6 YPC / 10.1 att per TD
Walker …….. 2468yds-398-25tds / 224.4 YPG / 6.2 avg / 15.9 att per TD
Peterson …… 2231yds-321-21tds / 202.8 YPG / 6.9 avg / 15.3 att per TD
McFadden …. 2202yds-307-19tds / 200.2 YPG / 7.17 avg / 16.2 att per TD
Jackson …..... 2175yds-301-20tds / 197.7 YPG / 7.22 avg / 15.0 att per TD
Once again, Walker, Peterson, Dayne, Williams and McFadden lead in total yards with more carries than Jackson. In terms of quality, Ron Dayne had the highest yards per carry with 7.9 yards per rush and Ricky Williams possessed the best TD ratio of 1 evert 10.1 attempts.
Career Games of 20 carries or more:
Jackson ….… 2193yds-325-19tds / 182.7 YPG / 6.74 avg / 17.1 att per TD
Williams …... 4857yds-779-55tds / 179.9 YPG / 6.23 avg / 14.2 att per TD
Dayne ……... 6330yds-1075-67tds / 175.8 YPG / 5.89 avg / 16.0 att per TD
Walker …….. 5463yds-1052-57tds / 165.5 YPG /5.19 avg / 18.4 att per TD
McFadden …. 3261yds-552-24tds / 155.3 YPG / 5.90 avg / 23.0 att per TD
Peterson …… 3830yds-700-39tds / 147.3 YPG / 5.47 avg / 17.9 att per TD
Walker had 33 games of at least 20 carries, Peterson had 26 and McFadden had 21 games, compared to Bo Jackson’s 12 games. Like Walker, Ron Dayne was a workhorse with 36 career games and Ricky Williams had 27 games. Bo averaged 182.7 yards per game compared to Williams’ 179.9, Dayne’s 175.8, Walker's 165.5, McFadden’s 155.3 average and Peterson’s 147.3 yards. Bo Jackson had the better average per carry and scored more frequently except for Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams. Jackson had fewer 20-carry games because he played in the wishbone offense in 3 of his 4 seasons.
Conference Games:
Walker …….. 168.9 yds per game / 5.23 avg / 20.0 att per TD
Dayne ……… 145.4 yds per game / 5.32 avg / 20.8 att per TD
McFadden …. 128.6 yds per game / 5.63 avg / 23.8 att per TD
Williams …… 136.1 yds per game / 5.93 avg / 18.4 att per TD
Jackson …..... 113.2 yds per game / 6.27 avg / 17.2 att per TD
Peterson …… 112.1 yds per game / 5.81 avg / 14.8 att per TD
Because of more attempts, Herschel Walker, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams and Darren McFadden had a better average in yards per game than Bo Jackson and Adrian Peterson. In terms of quality, Bo Jackson had a higher average per carry than the other five backs but Adrian Peterson had the best TD ratio against conference opponents.
Number of games averaging 5 or more yards per carry:
Jackson ……. 29 of 41 (70.7%)
Williams …… 32 of 49 (65.3%)
McFadden …. 24 of 38 (63.2%)
Dayne ……… 28 of 47 (59.6%)
Peterson …… 17 of 31 (54.8%)
Walker …….. 16 of 36 (44.4%)
Number of games averaging 6 or more yards per carry:
Jackson ……. 21 of 41 (51.2%)
McFadden …. 18 of 38 (47.4%)
Williams …… 22 of 49 (44.9%)
Peterson …… 13 of 31 (41.9%)
Dayne ……... 18 of 47 (38.3%)
Walker …….. 11 of 36 (30.5%)
Number of games averaging 7 or more yards per carry:
McFadden …. 12 of 38 (31.6%)
Williams …… 14 of 49 (28.6%)
Dayne ……… 12 of 47 (25.5%)
Jackson ……. 10 of 41 (24.4%)
Peterson …… 6 of 31 (19.3%)
Walker …….. 3 of 36 (8.3%)
Games against Opponents with winning record:
During Adrian Peterson’s career, he faced a strength of schedule of .612. Bo Jackson faced a strength of schedule of .601. Darren McFadden faced a strength of schedule of .566, Ricky Williams faced a .525 and Ron Dayne was at .494. Herschel Walker had the lowest level of competition att at .485. Of Bo Jackson’s 41 games, 29 of his opponents had a winning record (70.7 pct). Peterson’s competition came from 19 teams of 31 with a winning record (61.3 pct). McFadden faced 21 of 38 (55.3 pct), Williams faced 25 of 49 (51.0 pct) and Ron Dayne faced as winning opponent in 20 of 47 games (42.5%). Herschel Walker faced only 15 of 36 (41.7 pct).
Herschel Walker …… 2253yds-470-21tds / 150.2 YPG / 4.79 YPC / 22.4 ATD
Darren McFadden ….. 2949yds-492-21tds / 140.4 YPG / 5.99 YPC / 23.4 ATD
Ron Dayne …………. 2414yds-468-18tds / 120.7 YPG / 5.16 YPC / 26.0 ATD
Adrian Peterson ……. 2285yds-452-23tds / 120.3 YPG / 5.06 YPC / 19.7 ATD
Ricky Williams ……. 2952yds-540-24tds / 118.1 YPG / 5.47 YPC / 22.5 ATD
Bo Jackson …………. 3227yds-527-31tds / 111.3 YPG / 6.12 YPC / 17.0 ATD
Herschel Walker had the best average in yards per game but Bo Jackson finished with the best yards per carry and TD ratio against the more difficult competition.
Games against Opponents with win percentage of .750 or better:
Ron Dayne (12) …………. 1394yds-282-11tds / 116.2 YPG / 4.94 YPC / 25.6 ATD
Darren McFadden (11) …. 1274yds-218-12tds / 115.8 YPG / 5.84 YPC / 18.2 ATD
Bo Jackson (13) ………… 1470yds-254-11tds / 113.1 YPG / 5.78 YPC / 23.1 ATD
Herschel Walker (6) …..…. 645yds-159-7tds / 107.5 YPG / 4.06 YPC / 22.7 ATD
Ricky Williams (11) …….. 1044yds-216-7tds / 94.9 YPG / 4.83 YPC / 30.9 ATD
Adrian Peterson (10) ……. 916yds-218-8tds / 91.6 YPG / 4.20 YPC / 27.2 ATD
Ron Dayne had the highest yards per game with 116.2 against opponents with a win percentage of at least .750. Darren McFadden had the best yards per carry and TD ratio. Bo Jackson was close behind McFadden in this category. According to the University of Texas official athletic website, Ricky Williams was a fullback during his first 2 seasons and a halfback during his final 2 years. As a fullback, Williams averaged 91.2 YPG and 183.5 YPG as a halfback.
Bowl stats are included for all the above backs.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:29 pm to wadewilson
You might wanna put a maxi pad on that thing.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:29 pm to Weagle25
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Obvious troll is obvious. No one in their right mind would argue this.
Agree...but we are talking about a Gump in this case...
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:29 pm to FlukerFlakes
Bo did more in the NFL than Ingram will ever do. And football was just a hobby for Bo. How many yards did Ingram have vs Auburn that year??
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:29 pm to Party At LSU
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Have you seen some of FlukerFlakes posts?
I'm not saying Ingram is a better player than Bo ever was. I AM saying Ingram in 2009 was better than Bo in 1985.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:30 pm to NATidefan
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Who was Bo's backup? Was he having to split carries with a Trent Richardson like player?
Brent Lanard Fullwood (born October 10, 1963 in Kissimmee, Florida), from St. Cloud High School, is a former professional American football player who was drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the 1st round (4th pick) of the 1987 NFL Draft
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:30 pm to FlukerFlakes
I've said it several times, and stand by it...
There have been numerous RB's better than Bo. There's not been a better athlete though. He had a glass body and the advantage of a wishbone offense and 2 other great backs to beat up on his defenses at the time.
There have been numerous RB's better than Bo. There's not been a better athlete though. He had a glass body and the advantage of a wishbone offense and 2 other great backs to beat up on his defenses at the time.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:30 pm to Ross
Ingram had 31 yards against a Chizik led defense in 2009...thread over.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 1:30 pm to FlukerFlakes
And you'd be incorrect.
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