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re: Has any coach experienced a turn around like Mullen?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:44 am to JaxTiger10
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:44 am to JaxTiger10
When will you just admit you don't know shite about our team and actually learn to listen? Next year, we return 4 guys with starting experience on the OL, 4 WRs with starting experience, all RBs with starting experience, our tHeisman finalist QB, 6 of 10 DL -- including the 3 with the most natural talent and at least two expected major contributors coming off redshirt/out of JUCO, 4 of 7 experienced linebackers with at least one freakshow coming off redshirt/out of JUCO, and at least 4 DBs returning with starting experience, and guess what another freakshow coming off redshirt.
Your experience with 3 year undrafteds rushing to get the heck out of Baton Rouge and playing 39048309 true freshmen has warped your mind on how these things work for the rest of us.
Fact - there is practically no chance we see a starting OL next year with less than 2 years in our program. Most will have 3+. Fact - the guys filling those roles were more highly recruited than the 2 unrecruited 2*s and one NR walk-on we are replacing.
Fact - it is highly unlikely we see a starting DL with less than 3 years in our program.
Fact - This senior class all the "SEC fans" are freaking out about us losing and falling back to mediocrity has proven to actually probably be the worst one we've had under this regime overall, albeit a large class. We graduate ONE composite 4* this year. Let that sink in.
Your experience with 3 year undrafteds rushing to get the heck out of Baton Rouge and playing 39048309 true freshmen has warped your mind on how these things work for the rest of us.
Fact - there is practically no chance we see a starting OL next year with less than 2 years in our program. Most will have 3+. Fact - the guys filling those roles were more highly recruited than the 2 unrecruited 2*s and one NR walk-on we are replacing.
Fact - it is highly unlikely we see a starting DL with less than 3 years in our program.
Fact - This senior class all the "SEC fans" are freaking out about us losing and falling back to mediocrity has proven to actually probably be the worst one we've had under this regime overall, albeit a large class. We graduate ONE composite 4* this year. Let that sink in.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 10:52 am
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:46 am to StopRobot
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This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:46 am to StopRobot
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I JUST read this morning that MSU is losing 13 to 15 of its 22 starters not to mention maybe the head coach
We're losing 11
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:47 am to engie
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When will you just admit you don't know shite about our team and actually learn to listen?
Yeah, but what about Mullin leaving next year?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:50 am to DynastyDawg
It is pointless to try and correct Alabama fans. They are the same people that thought leprechauns were in the trees.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:54 am to engie
Ha ha yeah those back up olinemen you're raving about are so good they can't bear out the starters. Youre delusional of you think you can lose all that experience and be jist as good next year. It doesn't happen. Bama has had great classes every year and aae down because of experience. Miss st has not recruited well enough to just reload. Youre not realizing that this year's 3'3 ' s becomes your 2's next year. Its already clear that this year's 2 ' s on you team is no where near your 1's which is why teams make all those runs in the 2nd half.
Fact: miss st does not recruit well enough to just plug and play
Fact: you're making your run when both lsu and bama are having down years BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCE. Two teams that recruit far better than you are having experience issues but yeah Miss St will just be fine. Better even. Come on
Miss st is having a great year but you're delusional if you think you're gonna be this good next year. You lose to much depth and talent to just stay ranked high. You think Miss st is gonna do something even the best programs CANT DO. Handle attrition. The players I said was leaving is best case scenario. Thats if no underclassmen leave.
Fact: miss st does not recruit well enough to just plug and play
Fact: you're making your run when both lsu and bama are having down years BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCE. Two teams that recruit far better than you are having experience issues but yeah Miss St will just be fine. Better even. Come on
Miss st is having a great year but you're delusional if you think you're gonna be this good next year. You lose to much depth and talent to just stay ranked high. You think Miss st is gonna do something even the best programs CANT DO. Handle attrition. The players I said was leaving is best case scenario. Thats if no underclassmen leave.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:56 am to JaxTiger10
You are not handling the decline well.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:58 am to JaxTiger10
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Ha ha yeah those back up olinemen you're raving about are so good they can't bear out the starters
If you haven't noticed, our starters are pretty damn good.
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Fact: miss st does not recruit well enough to just plug and play
Fact, we don't recruit well enough according to the "experts" to be #1 in the country. We see how well that has worked out.
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Two teams that recruit far better than you are having experience issues but yeah Miss St will just be fine.
Our depth is rated higher by the recruiting "experts" than our starters.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:58 am to Quicksilver
frick you. 
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:03 am to Quicksilver
I think we're learning that when unexpected success comes quickly, it's difficult to maintain perspective for every fan base, regardless of how heady they used to be.
But it isn't THAT unexpected, this is a very experienced group. So it was sort of now or never for the older guys that have been playing together for 3 years. Might not be as easy to replicate next year...
But it isn't THAT unexpected, this is a very experienced group. So it was sort of now or never for the older guys that have been playing together for 3 years. Might not be as easy to replicate next year...
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:05 am to Quicksilver
OP is Rebel yall.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:05 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
MSU won't be as good next year. Probably 8 or 9 wins. 10 max.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:06 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
Wasn't unexpected for Mississippi State fans at all.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:07 am to WiredToTheJD
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Wasn't unexpected for Mississippi State fans at all.
I expected us to be pretty good this year. I never expected us to be ranked #1.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:09 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Don't get me wrong, I like Mullen. But the OP seemed to be asking if any coach has ever built a team of experienced leaders before...
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:10 am to JaxTiger10
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Ha ha yeah those back up olinemen you're raving about are so good they can't bear out the starters.
Seems like you would have noticed why when we were tripping on the LSU bodies of "the return to elite!1!1" defense that they left all over the field.
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Youre delusional of you think you can lose all that experience and be jist as good next year.
Like I already told you -- 4 guys with starting experience coming back. Plug and play. Just like we were going to fall apart without Day at aTm -- until we torched them.
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Bama has had great classes every year and aae down because of experience.
Because they haven't developed depth and continuity on the OL over time. They started a trFR at LT. That's the ultimate indictment of depth, IDGAF how talented the kid is.
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Miss st has not recruited well enough to just reload.
According to all of you friggin geniuses, we had not recruited well enough to "load" the first time. So, obviously, you can be considered an expert on this topic after getting it right literally never before.
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Youre not realizing that this year's 3'3 ' s becomes your 2's next year.
English please.
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Its already clear that this year's 2 ' s on you team is no where near your 1's which is why teams make all those runs in the 2nd half.
We aren't playing 2's in the second halves. We're playing 3's and 4's. Luckily, Auburn was within 3 scores at the start of the 4th. The first team to accomplish such a feat all year.
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Fact: miss st does not recruit well enough to just plug and play
Lulz.
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Fact: you're making your run when both lsu and bama are having down years BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCE. Two teams that recruit far better than you are having experience issues but yeah Miss St will just be fine. Better even. Come on
How many years in a row are you going to use this excuse as an LSU fan?
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Miss st is having a great year but you're delusional if you think you're gonna be this good next year. You lose to much depth and talent to just stay ranked high. You think Miss st is gonna do something even the best programs CANT DO. Handle attrition. The players I said was leaving is best case scenario. Thats if no underclassmen leave.
Stupid gonna stupid.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:14 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
That is because you do not read well.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:20 am to JaxTiger10
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JaxTiger10
You are a dumbass.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:25 am to JaxTiger10
quote:Shut up you pansy. They are really good and beat our freaking arse.
Also, if you can't admit that Miss St is having a better year because Bama and lsu are down then you arent being honest
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:33 am to Quicksilver
Oh, well in that case, you have set some pretty specific parameters.
I don't care to research all coaches that were 4-6 in yr 3 before winning 9 straight.
Some coaches could have been 5-5 or even 6-4 up to that point...lol
I don't care to research all coaches that were 4-6 in yr 3 before winning 9 straight.
Some coaches could have been 5-5 or even 6-4 up to that point...lol
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