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re: Gus...a believer in Bert

Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:16 pm to
Knock off the rational posting.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:16 pm to
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Let's deal in facts:

- Bert was hired over Gus
- Bert had a proven track record of success, Gus 1 year as a head coach
- Gus wanted the Arkansas job, wasn't offered it
- Gus had a great first year at Auburn with a roster built for his style
- Bert had a terrible first year with a roster not suited whatsoever to his style and a dumpster fire situation


Maybe Bert ends up being a colossal failure and Jeff Long would be canned. Maybe Gus has one great season at Auburn then things fall apart but it is too early to draw conclusions one way or the other on either guys.


feel better?
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
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I love this line of Arky thinking, it amuses me.



It's true, he didn't get passed over, just not considered at all. Dumpster fire at Auburn starts now.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8331 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
When can we start to draw conclusions? Will you start to believe that Gus is the better coach and didn't just coincidentally make it to the NC if Auburn has another solid team this year and Arkansas fails again to make a bowl game?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:23 pm to
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It's true, he didn't get passed over, just not considered at all. Dumpster fire at Auburn starts now.



Even if Gus was mildly interested, I think it is funny that Arkansas continues to wear the "we didn't hire the good coach!" as a badge of honor.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
If true, I feel bad for you that Jeff Long is still your AD
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Let's deal in facts:



Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:26 pm to
Arkie fan, if you are happy with your coach, then I am happy for you.

--fact is that he went 0-8. Even John L. smith did better than that.
-- fact is Big B's contract has huge buyout. Over $13,000,000..if he gets fired before three years.
-- fact is Arkie gave him a huge contract and paid his buyout from Wiskie.
-- fact is that Arkie under Bobby was very very good and entertaining.
-- fact is Bert threw his current players and talent under the bus
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
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So then Gus and Bret are equals in your eyes then?


It's hard to compare them because they are so different philosophy-wise.

Gus is a great recruiter and has a flashy offense and will get quick results at a program like Auburn. Bielema believes in developing a strong redshirt program and building on the lines and consistently fielding powerful run teams each year. His teams will normally have a lot more experience in exchange for all the freshman phenom talent that the other programs get, which is why I think it's better for us to do it that way.

I do think Gus is a great coach, but I don't think last year means Bielema isn't a great coach. His first year at Wisconsin he beat the SEC West champs so it's not like he's never beaten a good SEC team before. He has more of an uphill battle here though.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
-- Fact is every Wisconsin fan was ecstatic when he left
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:28 pm to
Fact:
Jeff Long hired Bobby Petrino.
Jeff Long hired Bret Beliema.
Jeff Long helps decide who plays in the CFB playoffs.


God help us.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
We better start writing letters to Jeff Long now so he will put us in the playoff
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:30 pm to
Auburn goes undefeated...JL goes "Meh".
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
Arkie fans remember this, your coach said it will take him 5 years

I can assure you that, in year five, we’re going to have a really good football team.....
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Fact:
Jeff Long hired Bobby Petrino.
Jeff Long hired John L
Jeff Long hired Bret Beliema.
Jeff Long helps decide who plays in the CFB playoffs.


There you go you missed one.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10400 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

"we didn't hire the good coach!"


So, you think it's impossible to hire a good coach who is a sleaze? Wasn't Petrino an example of that?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Arkie fan, if you are happy with your coach, then I am happy for you.

--fact is that he went 0-8. Even John L. smith did better than that.
-- fact is Big B's contract has huge buyout. Over $13,000,000..if he gets fired before three years.
-- fact is Arkie gave him a huge contract and paid his buyout from Wiskie.
-- fact is that Arkie under Bobby was very very good and entertaining.
-- fact is Bert threw his current players and talent under the bus


You better hope Bret is successful. If we fire him we may decide to offer Gus his dream job.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:33 pm to
Petrino was a great coach

I was very happy when Long fired him
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I can assure you that, in year five, we’re going to have a really good football team...


you really think gus will hang around that long? or are you already assuming you'll have another coach?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30212 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Gus got passed over for the job
quote:

And people think it's a good idea to let Jeff Long decide who plays for the title...
I know right?

I can't help but question Jeff Long's sanity. First hiring Petrino with his propensity to screw over a team - then damned if Petrino didn't "Petrino" - then to hire a total clown like Johnelle - and now B2. And someone actually thought it'd be a great idea to put the man on the damn committee to decide which teams should make it to the playoff.
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