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re: Guesstimate the highest number of consecutive plays a defensive player was...
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:44 am to elposter
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:44 am to elposter
quote:Good question. I think the HUNH can go quickly enough to make substituting a bit of a risk of penalty on a lot of first downs, so I don't think all first downs can count.
What counts as "stoppage of play" in your question? If first downs count, then the answer is probably around 4.
Let's say first downs don't count for the purposes of this question.
I'm mainly looking at stoppages that allow for reasonably quick defensive substitutions with little to no risk for being caught with too many men on the field. Situation where the offense has substituted or there is a penalty or most incomplete passes and the like.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:44 am to BamaDoc14
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That could have fit into any one of the other 15 active threads on the subject
Are you just mad your 10 threads about it aren't getting enough action?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:46 am to WDE24
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Let's say first downs don't count for the purposes of this question.
I'm mainly looking at stoppages that allow for reasonably quick defensive substitutions with little to no risk for being caught with too many men on the field. Situation where the offense has substituted or there is a penalty or most incomplete passes and the like.
Good question. Maybe around 8 or so would be my best guess. I feel like I have seen drives of that length that are essentially continous play. Just a guess.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:47 am to WDE24
Like Spurier stated as well, which type of offense has longer sustained drives, as well? and what are the typical play counts on drives for HUNH teams?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:47 am to BamaDoc14
Are you willing to provide an answer and/or contribute with the specific question of the thread?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:47 am to joeyb147
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Action on the field lasts about 11 minutes total.
Which is why no one has been able to show me player deaths during a game against High Tempo offenses.
I would believe Bert and Saban more had the sought rule changes on conditioning and pre season practices where the majority of the deaths have occurred. Sadly they chose to ignore the real danger to players and went after a rule that would eliminate an edge to the offense.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:26 am to WDE24
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Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:31 am to WDE24
The most I ever remember was Von Miller against OU in 2010. They ran the hurry up no huddle from their own ten to our one and then we stopped them four straight times for a goal line stand. The drive was 15 or 16 plays and I think every play ended with a completion or a run int he field of play. Von played every snap, had like six or seven tackles on that drive alone and then cramped up on the way off he field after the fourth down stop.
It cant be more than 15 or so.
It cant be more than 15 or so.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:35 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:OU didn't substitute at all on the drive? Did aTm's entire defense play all of the plays?
They ran the hurry up no huddle from their own ten to our one and then we stopped them four straight times for a goal line stand. The drive was 15 or 16 plays
ETA: LINK
Which drive are you referring to?
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 11:39 am
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:02 pm to WDE24
Someone should research the effect the 2008 40 sec clock vs 25 sec clock rule change has had on the game. Prior to that rule.change the HUNH wasn't nearly as popular or productive. Would like to see : point per game, plays per game, # of teams using HUNH, and injuries average for the 5 years prior and after that rule change.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 1:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
Didn't Miller collapse and die on the sideline after that series?
RIP, Von Mller.
RIP, Von Mller.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 2:21 pm to spacewrangler
quote:Just fricking stop with this shite. You've posted it over and over and over. You are wrong.
Someone should research the effect the 2008 40 sec clock vs 25 sec clock rule change has had on the game. Prior to that rule.change the HUNH wasn't nearly as popular or productive.
Guess who the OC of Tulsa was in 2007 when the HUNH "wasn't nearly as productive"? Who coached the 2007 Gators? WVU? TTU? Oklahoma State? Missouri? Oregon?
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 2/21/14 at 2:25 pm to joeyb147
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You've posted it over and over and over. You are wrong.
Ive just snickered at the 25 clock retort. its all you can do
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:09 pm to joeyb147
Not going to stop anything just because you don't like it doesn't mean it can't be discussed. There are plenty of articles with quotes from coaches on how that rule change would effect the game, all said it would heavily favor the HUNN offense and since then there have been more and more teams going to that type of O style. It will not hurt you to admit it has helped.
I'm not defending nor I am I advocating any new rule change. All I've done is present reasons why the HUNH has recently become the craze. And it directly relates to that change.
Maybe there needs to be tweak to the rules to allow for a more equitable ability for the D to sub. I don't know, just trying to discuss. To me it seems like a fair deal would be to allow free substitution after first downs, the O should be required to check in with the ref when subbing so no sneaking a change and like the do now they can hold up until the D subsequently as well (make it a penalty if they don't check in) and they need to increase the player area to the goal lines to allow easier/faster subbing .
It can stay the same and I will be fine; I don't really care but I do see the reasons why some coaches would want a change.
I'm not defending nor I am I advocating any new rule change. All I've done is present reasons why the HUNH has recently become the craze. And it directly relates to that change.
Maybe there needs to be tweak to the rules to allow for a more equitable ability for the D to sub. I don't know, just trying to discuss. To me it seems like a fair deal would be to allow free substitution after first downs, the O should be required to check in with the ref when subbing so no sneaking a change and like the do now they can hold up until the D subsequently as well (make it a penalty if they don't check in) and they need to increase the player area to the goal lines to allow easier/faster subbing .
It can stay the same and I will be fine; I don't really care but I do see the reasons why some coaches would want a change.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:25 pm to Gnar Cat21
Malzahn gonna be charged with murder 1. Aggravated death by HUNH.
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