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re: Grier has filed appeal, says substance was approved by NCAA (update in OP)
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:59 am to Patton
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:59 am to Patton
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Ones an actually on the field advantage one isn't.
I kinda agree, but on the other hand, would Ole Miss have the same talent on the field if they weren't paying players?
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:59 am to MrGrind
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He gained 43 pounds in 38 months. Must be roids
His official freshman weight (taken right before the season) was 172.
His official sophomore weight (taken right before the season) was 215.
I don't know how the frick you got over 3 years between freshmen and sophomore year, but you're wrong. Your boy juiced, move on.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:00 pm to joshnorris14
But why? Shouldn't actual cheating be punished harder than trying to make money?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:01 pm to joshnorris14
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Grier will argue that he was given information that the supplement he took was indeed cleared by the NCAA and hope to have his suspension mitigated, enabling him to play at the beginning of the 2016 season. His attorneys have hired experts to help aid them in proving that Grier had no knowledge that the supplement he took contained a banned substance. Additionally, Grier and his representation will argue that the policy that the NCAA holds student-athletes — which is congruent to the standard that Florida adopts — to is too harsh.
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Interesting argument.
We'll see how that flies.
Whatever mystery supplement he took, that is.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:02 pm to Solo Cam
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His official sophomore weight (taken right before the season) was 215.
His listed weight is actually 203. His father tweeted that he was up to 215 but UFs official weight was 203.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:03 pm to craigbiggio
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Just now? Why did it take so long?
for the rest of the substances to clear his blood.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:03 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I kinda agree, but on the other hand, would Ole Miss have the same talent on the field if they weren't paying players?
True, but in the case of Ole Miss, if Tunsil hadn't of been sat out by Ole Miss than they would've possibly had to forfeit games he played.
If paying a player is considered enough of a competitive edge to take away games had he played after they gained knowledge of what happened, then why aren't games that Grier played (especially after his first dirty test) forfeited? Your starting QB juiced up would also be a competitive edge I would think.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:03 pm to Patton
NCAA will shorten Grier's punishment to a 3 game suspension next year not 6.
Then next year in Neyland, Harris will throw 4 straight Pick sixes leading to TN being ahead by 31 points at the start of the 4th QTR.
McElwain then unleashes an incredible Hulk sized Grier who isn't tackled the rest of the game and scores a 90 yard TD run as time expires for a 4 pt win to give the Gators 12 in a row.
He will then be suspended and kicked off the team on Monday because he tested positive for steroids after the game.
Book it.
Then next year in Neyland, Harris will throw 4 straight Pick sixes leading to TN being ahead by 31 points at the start of the 4th QTR.
McElwain then unleashes an incredible Hulk sized Grier who isn't tackled the rest of the game and scores a 90 yard TD run as time expires for a 4 pt win to give the Gators 12 in a row.
He will then be suspended and kicked off the team on Monday because he tested positive for steroids after the game.
Book it.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:07 pm to Solo Cam
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His official freshman weight (taken right before the season) was 172.
His official sophomore weight (taken right before the season) was 215.
His official freshman weight in January 2014 was 183 lbs.
His official weight August 2015 was 203 lbs.
That is 20 lbs in 18 months.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:07 pm to joshnorris14
Did I hear correctly that Morgan and Morgan are representing him?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:07 pm to Ericvol2096
I love the jokes 
I'm pretty sure IF the NCAA reduces the punishment, he would be subjected to additional rigorous testing.
He obviously didn't have steroids in his blood, otherwise, he wouldn't be making this appeal.
What I heard is that the supplement was allowed the prior year, but the NCAA banned it starting this year.
People in the know think there is a good chance he will start playing from the beginning of 2016. We shall see. I just have no faith in the NCAA being logical.
I'm pretty sure IF the NCAA reduces the punishment, he would be subjected to additional rigorous testing.
He obviously didn't have steroids in his blood, otherwise, he wouldn't be making this appeal.
What I heard is that the supplement was allowed the prior year, but the NCAA banned it starting this year.
People in the know think there is a good chance he will start playing from the beginning of 2016. We shall see. I just have no faith in the NCAA being logical.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:08 pm to BrerTiger
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Interesting argument.
And it'll be even more interesting to see which avenue he takes:
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This means that Grier will need to show that he did not know nor did he have a reasonable expectation of knowing that somebody else was giving him the banned substance, or that a school official incorrectly told him it was acceptable.
If he argues that the school is giving incorrect information to athletes about what they can/can't take or handed him a banned substance and told him it was ok, that could open a HUGE can of worms for Florida's staff in regards to what they're giving their players.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:08 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Did I hear correctly that Morgan and Morgan are representing him?
He is represented by our punter's father, Clay Townsend who works for Morgan & Morgan and has handled a number of high profile cases.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:10 pm to austingator
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What I heard is that the supplement was allowed the prior year, but the NCAA banned it starting this year.
And trainers and staff are given a list by the NCAA of changes/what is banned well before each season.
So either the NCAA didn't include the change or your staff is incompetent.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
He could have got clearance in 2014 and just continued taking it without realizing it was added
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:11 pm to austingator
Free Willy!
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:11 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So either the NCAA didn't include the change or your staff is incompetent.
It isn't argued that the staff told him wrong, or gave him the substance this year. But apparently it was okayed the prior year.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:12 pm to austingator
But this is all speculation, because they are not releasing information details.
I think is safe to assume though, that what they found in his blood was not steroids.
I think is safe to assume though, that what they found in his blood was not steroids.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:13 pm to joshnorris14
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He could have got clearance in 2014 and just continued taking it without realizing it was added
Then he wouldn't have much grounds for an appeal because that would be on him. Most programs are pretty strict about telling guys what they can and can't take. Especially when the NCAA sends out their notice regarding changes.
We always sat our guys down with the list (and link to the website) and basically told them not to take anything unless it's approved by a trainer or S&C coach. For this very reason.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:13 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
nope a full year and taking a year eligibility is a harsh arse punishment
it worked for brady why the hell wouldnt they try?
it worked for brady why the hell wouldnt they try?
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:14 pm
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