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re: Greatest Defensive Coordinator in Modern SEC History?

Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Hogtastic Voyage
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:13 pm to
Reggie Herring
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:19 pm to
Joe Kines
Posted by GhostofCrowell
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:28 pm to
Willie Martinez
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:30 pm to
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or Bo Pelini


Dude was in the SEC for 3 years and he lived off of Muschamp's players and reputation

His first game at LSU he gave up 550 yards when that meant something
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:32 pm to
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John Chavis.


He's the 3rd best at LSU, much less the SEC
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:34 pm to
Mike Shula
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:36 pm to
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Greatest Defensive Coordinator in Modern SEC History?
Hard to say, really. Chavis was good and solid, not great, at Tennessee. All competent DC's at LSU have done very well with the talent.

Hell, even the co-coordinator disaster with Mallory and Peveto wasn't truly awful; 2008 compares pretty closely to 2013, other than 2013 had a better offense and wasn't throwing a ton of pick-sixes. Both were subpar by LSU standards.

I would speculate that Vandy's old DC under Franklin might have been pretty good. They did well, with a lot less talent than you want to have.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:38 pm to
Rob Smith
Posted by TheSwineAssault
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:39 pm to
Code red
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:42 pm to
"Good not great"? GTFO

Chavis has twice as many top ten scoring defenses nationally, and twice as many top ten total defenses nationally, as Muschamp.

And he never had Saban as puppet master.

Will look up Joe Kines' stats.
Posted by RANDY44
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:44 pm to
He never had the title but it was Saban. In his five years at LSU every defensive call went through him if not outright called by him for his protege, WM. The '03 LSU defense is one of the greatest in SEC history as are 2 or 3 of the 'Bama defenses. I would rank Chavis 2nd FWIW.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:49 pm to
Kirby Smart.

He had the #1 defense in the conference in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. No other DC in SEC history can stake a claim to that many consecutive seasons with the conference's top defense.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:52 pm to
Saban doesn't count. We are talking guys that were coordinators and that weren't puppets.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:16 pm to
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Chavis has twice as many top ten scoring defenses nationally, and twice as many top ten total defenses nationally, as Muschamp.


Id hope so considering Muschamp has spent 7 seasons as a DC in his career to Chavis's 20 years of a DC in the SEC and 25 years overall
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:18 pm to
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"Good not great"? GTFO

Chavis has twice as many top ten scoring defenses nationally, and twice as many top ten total defenses nationally, as Muschamp.
Didn't say Muschamp was the best, either.

I'm not going on stats; those will be skewed towards teams with tons of talent.

There were some teams that lacked talent but were very solid defensively. Like I said, Vandy played a couple of seasons where they were very impressive, considering the players they ran out there.
Posted by m45auburn
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:30 pm to
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Rob Smith


It's Robb Smith. At least spell his name right...
Posted by Rayburn8
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:54 pm to
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Joe Lee Dunn


This.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:59 pm to
Fittin'to be Kevin Steele
:)
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 12:27 am to
Steele
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 12:36 am to
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Fittin'to be Kevin Steele
:)


He was Alabama's DC in 2007.

Didn't work out so well, good luck with that.
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