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re: Gotta love SEC officials
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:38 pm to Broncothor
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:38 pm to Broncothor
quote:I have no dog in the fight but you have no clue what the rules are
Case 1 - He ran because the refs did not blow the whistle, which is what he is coached to do. And it was not a penalty because he stopped when the whistle was blown.
If you run after a fair catch it is a penalty. The refs got in wrong because they said "his momentum" carried him 8 yards forward and caused him to make a few juke moves This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:43 pm to Broncothor
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He ran because the refs did not blow the whistle, which is what he is coached to do. And it was not a penalty because he stopped when the whistle was blown.
This is why you stop after giving the fair catch signal...if you keep running, then you should be fair game to be laid out.
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Case 2 - The Tennessee player was no where near in position to get to the ball. Just decoying, so no penalty.
"The penalty for not giving a receiving-team player an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick, and for contacting a player who has signaled for a fair catch, is 15 yards from the spot of the foul." Subsequently...the person signaling the fair catch isn't allowed to make contact with a punt team player, either.
That means that UT would have gotten the ball around the 25 yard line instead of on the 1 foot line.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:44 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
There's just to much unknown to say that would have effected the outcome of the game but I don't think we win even if they get the spot right
GTFO with this shite, are you guys serious about this? Forward progress was clearly stopped it doesn't matter if he's still "fighting" or not
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UT benefited from offsetting Personal Foul. A clear fumble on Pig Howard who was fighting for yards.
GTFO with this shite, are you guys serious about this? Forward progress was clearly stopped it doesn't matter if he's still "fighting" or not
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:47 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Dawgs tried to hand the game to the Vols, but they fumbled that too.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:52 pm to boxerbulldawg
I don't disagree with that I just have seen UGA fans on the UGA board claiming Pig's play should've been called a fumble and I just ignored it and chalked it up to Homers on a team board on game day.
But now I'm seeing this in Monday after the game on the rant and want to know if he really believes it should've been called a fumble
But now I'm seeing this in Monday after the game on the rant and want to know if he really believes it should've been called a fumble
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:06 pm to Serraneaux
Oh snap I just realized you're the same guy that woke up Saturday and posted that all should "book it" that UT wins. As soon as you wrote book it all was lost. Now here you are whining about refs.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:25 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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GTFO with this shite, are you guys serious about this? Forward progress was clearly stopped it doesn't matter if he's still "fighting" or not
What matters is the whistle calling the play dead.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:29 pm to tennessee391
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Whether it changes the outcome of the game or not is unknown.. but what is known is that the officials fricking sucked.
True. Not to mention McKenzie's calling for a fair catch, then running with the ball. No delay of game call. The announcers said he was running towards the ball after calling the fair catch and his momentum carried him forward. On the replay both heels were planted in the grass and he wasn't moving at all when he caught the ball.
IN fairness, Tennessee got the benefit of some calls, too....but the point was that the officiating was bad. And it was.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:31 pm to Serraneaux
How did no Tennessee coach bring this to light the second it happened? What are they paid for?
Be mad at your coaches.
Be mad at your coaches.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:33 pm to madmaxvol
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"The penalty for not giving a receiving-team player an unimpeded opportunity to catch the kick, and for contacting a player who has signaled for a fair catch, is 15 yards from the spot of the foul." Subsequently...the person signaling the fair catch isn't allowed to make contact with a punt team player, either.
That means that UT would have gotten the ball around the 25 yard line instead of on the 1 foot line.
You are wrong. You left out a VERY important part of the rule.
being within two yards of a player of the receiving team positioned to catch a free or scrimmage kick
The Tennessee player was not in position to receive the ball. the ball was 15-20 yards over his head and behind him.
Now, the McKenzie run after the fair catch is a legitimate complaint.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:35 pm to randomways
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What matters is the whistle calling the play dead.
This is correct. Doesn't matter what we see or interpret the rule to be...if the whistle was not blown then the ball and play is live.
Youtube has the whole game...was wondering when the play occurred.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:37 pm to DawgsLife
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IN fairness, Tennessee got the benefit of some calls, too....but the point was that the officiating was bad. And it was.
pretty much
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:38 pm to DawgsLife
Yea i have no problem with the no call on the fair catch interference
But the explanation on MacKenzie' fair catch was laughable as was the offsetting personal fouls.
Again, I don't think it effected the outcome of the game but I wish the SEC would release a statement explaining how in the hell the refs screwed up a routine spot that badly
I think it was in the first half of the second quarter not sure precisely when but it was in the first half for sure
But the explanation on MacKenzie' fair catch was laughable as was the offsetting personal fouls.
Again, I don't think it effected the outcome of the game but I wish the SEC would release a statement explaining how in the hell the refs screwed up a routine spot that badly
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e. Youtube has the whole game...was wondering when the play occurred.
I think it was in the first half of the second quarter not sure precisely when but it was in the first half for sure
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:43 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Yea i have no problem with the no call on the fair catch interference
But the explanation on MacKenzie' fair catch was laughable as was the offsetting personal fouls.
Again, I don't think it effected the outcome of the game but I wish the SEC would release a statement explaining how in the hell the refs screwed up a routine spot that badly
You never know how bad calls/no calls etc affect a game. One change in an outcome changes every other play in the game. the bad spot, for instance. Would Georgia have gone for it? I think we would have to run the clock down. Would we have made it? Nobody knows, but you would think it would be doubtful. Every single play and outcome affects every other play in the game. However, there is nothing that can be done about it. It's like our game against South Carolina. Gurley had a big TD called back on a bad holding call. SEC office said it wasn't holding, yet we lost the TD.
Stuff like this is maddening and frustrating, but there is nothing that can be done about it.
(That is not saying had the TD stood we would have won the game at SC. As I said, had the play stood it would have changed every other play in the game. There simply is no way of knowing how the game might...or might not have changed.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:45 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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I think it was in the first half of the second quarter not sure precisely when but it was in the first half for sure
I might try to find the play and listen for a whistle. I honestly don't know if it was blown or not....and even if I find the play and don't hear the whistle it wouldn't mean that it wasn't blown. Bad sound and all.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:48 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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I think it was in the first half of the second quarter not sure precisely when but it was in the first half for sure
I gave it a cursory look and couldn't find it. I just don't have the patience. here is the link to the game if anybody cares to try to find it, though.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:59 pm to DawgsLife
The whistle definitely blew on the pig play FWIW
And yea I know what you're saying it's just that on a holding call at least it's a "judgement call" and there is a lot of gray area involved with it
If you miss a spot by 12-18 inches one way or the other every now and then I get it, it's a tough job. But to frick it up by 3.5 yards? Cmon, how the hell does that happen?
And yea I know what you're saying it's just that on a holding call at least it's a "judgement call" and there is a lot of gray area involved with it
If you miss a spot by 12-18 inches one way or the other every now and then I get it, it's a tough job. But to frick it up by 3.5 yards? Cmon, how the hell does that happen?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:29 pm to Serraneaux
Pic #1 @ 1:08
Pic #2 @ :40
Care to explain WHERE those :28 DISAPPEARED to?
Pic #2 @ :40
Care to explain WHERE those :28 DISAPPEARED to?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:32 pm to southernboisb
Georgia running down the clock in between 3rd and 4th down
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