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re: Georgia and Alabama are #1 and #2 in the conference in total defense

Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:52 pm to
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THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.


In a twisted way, it is. We are, in a way, talking about which team is better and why, are we not? Isn't the argument that Alabama's 2/3's have played a lot, so your statistics would be even better than they are? Our point is....so would ours. In short, I would say the statistics are probably skewed for both teams close to the same. Things tend to even out.

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None of this has anything to do with Bama having some mythical advantage because our backups play a lot.


The advantage Alabama has is certainly not mythical. Crap. It's coaching and players. But lets not pretend that the statistic angle has not bearing on an argument as to which team is stronger. Otherwise, why bring up statistics at all? It is to prove, or disprove that one team is superior to the other. And, it's legitimate. I don't think anybody would argue that Georgia is better than Alabama. but we would bring up statistics to show how good we are....Alabama would bring up statistics for the same reason. If not.....why talk statistics at all?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:53 pm to
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I've always thought "the #'s are skewed due to backups" argument was pretty week.


It has been a very pretty week. Great weather.

Our defense has given up 71 points this year, total, through 7 games. Almost 40% of those points were given up by our backups.

I have nothing else to add.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:55 pm to
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I'd say that those #'s are a pretty fair representation of both Bama's and UGA's defenses. I've always thought "the #'s are skewed due to backups" argument was pretty week.




They all even out. Out of curiosity....which is better? the 2011Alabama defense...or this years? Alabama and LSU had two of the best defenses I've seen in 2011. It was mind boggling. Almost surprising when anybody got a first down on either defense.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:56 pm to
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I have nothing else to add.


Come on. You don't really mean that.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:59 pm to
I DO. THIS THREAD HAS ME SO TRIGGERED!!11!!
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Almost 40% of those points were given up by our backups.


Similar for uga too. You would know if you watched our games.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:03 pm to
You are a liar.
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:04 pm to
Efficiency rankings account for backups and garbage time pts.

It's Bama #1 and UGA not far behind at #2.

Both great Ds this year.

Why all the bit ching.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:04 pm to
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I DO. THIS THREAD HAS ME SO TRIGGERED!!11!!






I'll tell you this...arguing with djs is like beating your head against the wall. I don't mean that in a bad way towards him....just that he is hard to convince.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:05 pm to
Do the math yourself. You will get the same answer if you do it correctly.

This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:05 pm to
I calculate that Missouri scored 21 points in the first half. How's my math on that?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Efficiency rankings account for backups and garbage time pts.

It's Bama #1 and UGA not far behind at #2.

Both great Ds this year.

Why all the bit ching.




Everybody wants to believe theirs is the best.
Wait until the argument starts about who has played the tougher schedule and that is why the statistics are skewed.
It's coming. I promise you....it's coming!
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Efficiency rankings account for backups and garbage time pts. It's Bama #1 and UGA not far behind at #2. Both great Ds this year. Why all the bit ching.


Good stat that essentially proves Tuscaloosa wrong. Tuscaloosa just likes to talk about stuff he doesn't know about.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:07 pm to
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I calculate that Missouri scored 21 points in the first half. How's my math on that?


I would say spot on! And I think our first string was still in when they scored the other 7 points, but I honestly can't remember.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:08 pm to
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calculate that Missouri scored 21 points in the first half. How's my math on that?


That's part of the math I used. Keep it up. You are almost there
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Good stat that essentially proves Tuscaloosa wrong. Tuscaloosa just likes to talk about stuff he doesn't know about.




Ok. I gotta ask. Why does that prove Tuscaloosa wrong?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:09 pm to
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I calculate that Missouri scored 21 points in the first half. How's my math on that?




Good math

We sucked

Hopefully, Kirby will be able to identify areas where our young players need to work to get better

as things stand, if we play like we did yesterday, we would not even be able to beat mid tier teams like Clemson and Auburn

Our defense has a lot to think about and focus on coming into a bye week
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Good stat that essentially proves Tuscaloosa wrong. Tuscaloosa just likes to talk about stuff he doesn't know about.

Ok. I gotta ask. Why does that prove Tuscaloosa wrong?


Garbage plays, which usually involve backups, were removed.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:15 pm to
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Garbage plays, which usually involve backups, were removed.


Does it remove the two 60+ yard touchdown passes thrown by Missouri in the first half yesterday?

That doesn't seem fair.
Posted by Commander Data
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 3:15 pm to
No need in measuring our dicks guys. Both units are elite with Georgia's being a count hair better so far.
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