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Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:35 am to boXerrumble
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If BD stays at UF for 20 more years, and wins a couple more titles, then yes he will fall under the legendary category.
no offense but
and well duh. 
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:38 am to Yintros
Richt owns Auburn
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:00 am to TreyAnastasio
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Duke pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 0 NC's / 3 FF's (roughly 40 years)
Duke post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 4 NC's / 12 FF's (roughly 35 years)
UNC pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 1 NC's / 6 FF's (roughly 40 years)
UNC post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 4 NC's / 12 FF's (roughly 35 years)
Uconn pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 0 NC's / 0 FF's (roughly 40 years)
Uconn post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 3 NC's / 4 FF's (roughly 35 years)
vs
UK pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 4 NC's / 7 FF's (roughly 40 years)
UK post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 4 NC's / 8 FF's (roughly 35 years)
IU pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 3 NC's / 4 FF's (roughly 40 years)
IU post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 2 NC's / 4 FF's (roughly 35 years)
UCLA pre ESPN : 1939 - 1977 : 10 NC's / 13 FF's (roughly 40 years)
UCLA post ESPN : 1978 - 2014 : 1 NC's / 5 FF's (roughly 35 years)
ESPN started in Connecticut by broadcasting Uconn sports in the late 70's. This was followed by adding the ACC as the ACC could not get a broadcast deal with the Big 3 (ABC / CBS / NBC) when the B1G, Big 8, SWC, PAC, and SEC all had deals with the big 3 networks. Florida State did not enter the ACC till 1992. The Boston College AD backpedaled about ESPN telling them who to add in conference realignment. LINK Pat Summit was furious about ESPN recruiting Maya Moore to Uconn. LINK. You can tell me ESPN has not helped Uconn and the ACC grow, but I do not buy it.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:03 am to Cheese Grits
Leaving out when Calhoun and K got hired, pretty convenient
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:07 am to Cheese Grits
So you're telling me that when Duke, UNC, and UCONN got TV exposure more on par with their national competitors, their programs improved on a national scale? Furthermore, that this change coincided with the rise some hall of fame coaches at those schools?
Color me shocked.
Color me shocked.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:22 am to GoldenDawg
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Florida is set up for an unholy domination of the SEC for the foreseeable future
Easy, killer. There's still the matter of a certain blue blood program in Lexington that might have something to say about that.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:23 am to CatFan81
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Easy, killer. There's still the matter of a certain blue blood program in Lexington that might have something to say about that.
Truth. For some reason I left Kentucky out of the discussion.
Probably Alzheimers. Or just general stupididdity.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:26 am to CatFan81
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Easy, killer. There's still the matter of a certain blue blood program in Lexington that might have something to say about that.
Next year is gonna be really interesting.
UF next year actually might have more talent than this year's team, but will have A LOT less experience.
Plus, Damontre Harris will be back after missing this year with suspension, and Eli Carter will be back after RSing because his leg wasn't fully healed.
UF's lineup next year is very hard to guess depending on how BD will want the team to play, but I'm guessing:
G Eli Carter
G Michael Frazier
G Kasey Hill
F Chris Walker
F Dorian Finney-Smith
Of course, Chris Walker, Kasey Hill, and Michael Frazier could all go to the draft, but I'm reasonably confident that all 3 will be back for UF next year.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:30 am to Crowknowsbest
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So you're telling me that when Duke, UNC, and UCONN got TV exposure more on par with their national competitors
More like more exposure than their competitors, and protection when they did bad things. In the bigger picture it is the chicken and egg debate. Did those coaches rise to HoF status because of their ability or because the ESPN help allowed them to become HoF coaches because of the added exposure?
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Color me shocked.
Look, I believe all schools cheat to some extent, but since ESPN came to power it sure seems like some programs now get the spotlight and some get the umbrella.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:30 am to Phat Phil
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becoming a basketball school
Better than being a school that isn't dominant in a sport.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:31 am to gatordmb89
Yeah, frick UT.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:37 am to Patton
Donovan seems to accomplish big things quietly. He doesn't seem to have a legendary personality. He's a great coach that doesn't draw a ton of media attention to himself.
However, if he wins another title this year, he'll be tied for 3rd most national championships of all time for a coach (with Bobby Knight, Coach K and Jim Calhoun). So accomplishment-wise, he's getting up there in legendary status. One more after that and he'd be tied with Adolph Rupp for the 2nd most ever. Of course, no one will ever catch John Wooden at #1.
However, if he wins another title this year, he'll be tied for 3rd most national championships of all time for a coach (with Bobby Knight, Coach K and Jim Calhoun). So accomplishment-wise, he's getting up there in legendary status. One more after that and he'd be tied with Adolph Rupp for the 2nd most ever. Of course, no one will ever catch John Wooden at #1.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:39 am to Cheese Grits
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More like more exposure than their competitors, and protection when they did bad things. In the bigger picture it is the chicken and egg debate. Did those coaches rise to HoF status because of their ability or because the ESPN help allowed them to become HoF coaches because of the added exposure?
Could go the other way too. Did those schools previous lack of exposure result in them being under ranked and underseeded, resulting in a more difficult path to national prominence than a UK or UCLA would have faced?
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Look, I believe all schools cheat to some extent, but since ESPN came to power it sure seems like some programs now get the spotlight and some get the umbrella.
LOL. UK, IU, and UCLA hardly get the umbrella. If any of those schools get the umbrella, it's UCLA, but that's because they're on the west coast.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:41 am to Big EZ Tiger
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Of course, no one will ever catch John Wooden at #1
The days of Papa Sam will probably never return. Wooden records will stand unless things get that lax again. In the age of Twitter too hard to keep that stuff quiet that long.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:44 am to GoldenDawg
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They do not have a good basketball program. They have an elite program that could find it's way (and may already have) into the legendary status.
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They have a relatively young coach who is not going anywhere and may be the best coach in the country.
This can't be true. Aubrens has the best coach in the country, ask em.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:47 am to Crowknowsbest
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LOL. UK, IU, and UCLA hardly get the umbrella.
My point!
NCAA will go after UK, IU, KU, and other top basketball schools
NCAA gives UNC, Duke, UCLA, Arizona, and others the umbrella
As for UCLA, read up on this guy's influence during the Wooden era. LINK
Kids today may have no clue to history but older folks were around back then and saw it live.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:47 am to Forrest Gump
Pearl >>>> Wooden
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:47 am to Cheese Grits
Any indication of Duke cheating?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:50 am to UFMatt
Rare praise from a UG fan, but thanks. Based on this I will not submit any jokes about the St. Johns river flowing north.
The SEC may yet learn to hate Muschamp. If not, UF fans will.
Ditto that! I retract that statement, in fact, I'm a native Georgian and still love my home state. I've just been in Florida much much longer than I was in Georgia Land.
The SEC may yet learn to hate Muschamp. If not, UF fans will.
Ditto that! I retract that statement, in fact, I'm a native Georgian and still love my home state. I've just been in Florida much much longer than I was in Georgia Land.
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