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re: GA Prof says Bama is a billion dollars in debt

Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:55 am to
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 9:55 am to
Finance101

Assets - liabilities = equity "net position"

University of Alabama System Financial Statements:

UA
$3,510,601,401 - $1,378,460,048 = $2,132,141,353

UAB
$4,065,877,935 - $1,367,044,775 = $2,698,833,160

UAH
$459,799,623 - $163,271,100 = $296,528,523

Source
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These are 2014 numbers
Seems like UAB has over $1 billion in liabilities too.
This just comes with being a big state university.
It's at all big schools.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 9:57 am
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:02 am to
I can solve the problem. A state wide crimson tide theme scratch off lotto tickets with the proceeds paying off the debt.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11285 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:08 am to
quote:

With that said, I long for the day when "research" wasn't the alpha and omega in academia.


What? You don't want to cure cancer/disease? Grow food more efficiently?
Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:10 am to
so auburn fans on the rant are endorsing it so you know it's not true

Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:26 am to
Bama will have some money freed up this year when Saban retires.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:26 am to
As of June 30, 2014 the UT system had current liabilities of $1,034,305,766. What ever will they do!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:38 am to
quote:

UA
$3,510,601,401 - $1,378,460,048 = $2,132,141,353


Assets of a University are usually bloated. What is the true value of Library building in Tuscaloosa ?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:17 am to
They value the assets on an annual basis
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5681 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:22 am to
Just doing quick Google searches...

Total liabilities for universities in 2014:

Auburn $1,084,795,804
Florida $754,000,000
Kentucky $1,346,869,000
A&M $5,209,000,000
Tennessee $1,182,960,000
LSU $920,213,334

The rest are easily found. These are just 5 minutes of searching.

Like has been stated. These numbers are fairly routine and normal for big state schools.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:27 am to
but singling out Alabama's number make it seem bad.

why do people hate 'Bama as much as they do? Auburn fans need to realize that their school and athletics would not be nearly as good as it is without Alabama and the success and influence it carries in the state.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:36 am to
quote:

They value the assets on an annual basis


How a University put a value on a Special Purpose Building in the middle of nowhere. is subjective at best. A building in Downtown Birmingham or Atlanta (GT) compared to the same building in Starkville, MS or Tuscaloosa is like day vs night. But My guess UA and MSU would put equal values on that property.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Just doing quick Google searches...

Total liabilities for universities in 2014:

Auburn $1,084,795,804
Florida $754,000,000
Kentucky $1,346,869,000
A&M $5,209,000,000
Tennessee $1,182,960,000
LSU $920,213,334

The rest are easily found. These are just 5 minutes of searching.

Like has been stated. These numbers are fairly routine and normal for big state schools.


These numbers are skewed as they show total liabilites, not non-current liabilites (which are long term liabilites).
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5681 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Assets of a University are usually bloated. What is the true value of Library building in Tuscaloosa ?





The University of Alabama Tuscaloosa campus has $1,369,650,127 in liquid assets as of 2014.

I can provide the links, but it's a pdf file. But it is in the earlier link I posted.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:51 am to
..and that is part of the valuation process in the audit.....
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:51 am to
quote:

The University of Alabama Tuscaloosa campus has $1,369,650,127 in liquid assets as of 2014.

I can provide the links, but it's a pdf file. But it is in the earlier link I posted.


What would those liquid assets be ?
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:52 am to
Gumps be gumpin'.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:55 am to
cash cash equivalents and liquidity facilities
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Assets of a University are usually bloated. What is the true value of Library building in Tuscaloosa ?


How are they bloated? A building is recorded at it's cost and then depreciated over a period of time. Are you saying the library is actually impaired and should be written down? If you can prove that all assets at UA are over valued you would have quite the story to tell the media.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:59 am to
quote:

cash cash equivalents and liquidity facilities


What specific facilities or cash equivalent items ? It is easy to throw a number up, especially for a College, but what are the true value. Is their endowment part of their cash equivalent ?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

What? You don't want to cure cancer/disease? Grow food more efficiently?
I don't think it should be the most important thing about every university like many people tend to think.
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