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re: Fun Fact about Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:46 pm to therick711
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:46 pm to therick711
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Johnny Vaught didn't have the good fortune to succeed Houston Nutt
We have good talent along the offensive line but the reason we are so razor thin at depth is because of his awful arse.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:46 pm to reggierayreb
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LSU posters on here always seem to be on the cutting edge when it comes to making funnies... Good stuff.
My post wasn't meant to be humorous...
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:48 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Now that is a fun fact.
You Old Missies are a fun bunch
You Old Missies are a fun bunch
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:48 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Choke you say? Where did he choke or make a bad call that cost us a game?
Not getting the field goal team on the field in time and getting a delay of game was all on the coach. That was crucial and very well could have cost ole muss a shot to tie the game
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:49 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I've been skeptical of Freeze's coaching abilities since he's been at OM but I give him props for this year. I can't think of any huge WTF moments or play calls this season so far.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:50 pm to Henry Jones Jr
So somewhat unofficial ranking of Ole Miss Coaches:
Cutcliffe (somehow got another Manning to come)
Nutt (made Hugh Freeze)
Freeze (downgraded only slightly because still coaching and came after a legend/top 2 coach)
Vaught (had the original Manning, different game back then, didn't embrace the evolution of the game)
Cutcliffe (somehow got another Manning to come)
Nutt (made Hugh Freeze)
Freeze (downgraded only slightly because still coaching and came after a legend/top 2 coach)
Vaught (had the original Manning, different game back then, didn't embrace the evolution of the game)
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:51 pm to therick711
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Cutcliffe (somehow got another Manning to come)
Not even top 4
1) Vaught
2) Brewer
3) Freeze
4) Tubs-he is the sole reason our program didn't wither up and die like SMU's.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:51 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Only because you fired your best coach ever would you say that.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:52 pm to therick711
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Only because you fired your best coach ever would you say that.
Only a dumbass who knows nothing about the situation or Cutcliffe would say he's Ole Miss' best coach ever.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:53 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Only a dumbass who knows nothing about the situation or Cutcliffe would say he's Ole Miss' best coach ever.
I'm not sure how those ideas even go together.
Why would the situation OR knowledge about Cutcliffe personally make a difference on how good a coach he was?
You're going to need a ton of clarifying to get to a cogent thought there. I'm willing to hear you out, you're just going to have to try to actually make sense.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:55 pm to therick711
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You're going to need a ton of clarifying to get to a cogent thought there. I'm willing to hear you out, you're just going to have to try to actually make sense.
He won with Tuberville's players and then he had Eli Manning. After he ran out of those he had a 4 win season when he had something like 19-20 starters back from a team that won 10 games the year before. He also stopped recruiting and flat out refused to make coaching staff changes that needed to be made.
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:58 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Well first off, it is Tuberville, and secondly, every objective measurement shows that Cutcliffe had a better career at Ole Miss between those two.
Also as to Freeze's bowl accomplishment, you have to acknowledge that Cutcliffe would have done the same thing if there were the same amount of bowls in 2001 that there are now. He won 7 games in an 11 game season and missed a bowl.
Also as to Freeze's bowl accomplishment, you have to acknowledge that Cutcliffe would have done the same thing if there were the same amount of bowls in 2001 that there are now. He won 7 games in an 11 game season and missed a bowl.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:01 pm to therick711
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Well first off, it is Tuberville, and secondly, every objective measurement shows that Cutcliffe had a better career at Ole Miss between those two.
Only because he had Eli Manning. That was the only good thing he ever did for the university. Tuberville was a better coach than Cutcliffe at Ole Miss given the circumstances. If you go back and watch Eli's three years playing at Ole Miss, you'll notice that he was the real playcaller because 90% of the time, he would get to the line and call a different play than Cutcliffe had called from the sideline.
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Also as to Freeze's bowl accomplishment, you have to acknowledge at Cutcliffe would have done the same thing if there were the same amount of bowls in 2001 that there are now. He won 7 games in an 11 game season and missed a bowl.
IIRC a 5 win Alabama team went to a bowl over us that season.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:04 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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IIRC a 5 win Alabama team went to a bowl over us that season.
Six. Took your Indy Bowl bid! Also, Ole Miss beat them head to head. Tough pill to swallow.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:05 pm to therick711
And we actually beat Alabama that season too.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:06 pm to lsufball19
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Not getting the field goal team on the field in time and getting a delay of game was all on the coach.
Agree with this. But it didn't cost us the game.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:06 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:Since Cutcliffe has since proved that he's an incompetent coach thats unable to make the correct calls.
he would get to the line and call a different play than Cutcliffe had called from the sideline
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:07 pm to MSUbulldogs03
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Since Cutcliffe has since proved that he's an incompetent coach thats unable to make the correct calls.
So we were wrong for firing Orgeron too then because he had a winning record at USC. Right?
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:08 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Agree with this. But it didn't cost us the game.
You guys have a strange definition of what costs a team a game. It sure as hell didn't help the Rebels win the game. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the throw to Treadwell--had it been utilized--would have gotten Ole Miss near the original spot.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:08 pm to therick711
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Also, if I'm not mistaken, the throw to Treadwell would have gotten Ole Miss near the original spot.
Bo decision. Not Freeze.
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