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FSU chose to join the ACC for the easiest route to football success. It worked for them...
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:15 pm
like a charm. Playing in a horrible conference so they can pad their football stats.
It's nice to see them suffering for it now.
They can't join any other conference at this point. They got suckered into the current deal by an ACC that doesn't care about football as a sport while FSU negligently failed to read the fine print on the GOR. The fine print that FINES THEM OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS if they leave the conference early.
Now it is apparent they've tried to strong-arm the ACC into changing the GOR and the ACC gave them the finger. Their only resort now is to sue the ACC to force them to let them go. And it appears the legal argument they are about to use is that they really don't like the deal they agreed to, or somehow failed to read.
FSU is well and truly fricked.
Good.
It's nice to see them suffering for it now.
They can't join any other conference at this point. They got suckered into the current deal by an ACC that doesn't care about football as a sport while FSU negligently failed to read the fine print on the GOR. The fine print that FINES THEM OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS if they leave the conference early.
Now it is apparent they've tried to strong-arm the ACC into changing the GOR and the ACC gave them the finger. Their only resort now is to sue the ACC to force them to let them go. And it appears the legal argument they are about to use is that they really don't like the deal they agreed to, or somehow failed to read.
FSU is well and truly fricked.
Good.
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Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:18 pm to GoldenDawg
Did the good posters just call it a year and leave?
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:19 pm to borotiger
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Did the good posters just call it a year and leave?
quote:It appears so.
borotiger
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:19 pm to GoldenDawg
It’s actually more simple than that. They got a new attention whore Harvard president that maybe thinks he can get in the SEC and AAU. This is grandstanding. Haven’t seen a single invite.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:23 pm to Partha
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It appears so.
I anticipated that. Since you're here, you didn't get the gotcha you thought Partha.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:24 pm to borotiger
quote:I never denied the charges...
Since you're here, you didn't get the gotcha you thought Partha.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:26 pm to GoldenDawg
Yeah, frick free shoes U
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:29 pm to Partha
Upvoted
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:35 pm to GoldenDawg
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Playing in a horrible conference so they can pad their football stats.
It’s what texas did with the SWC and big12. Instead of going to a stronger conference they chose to be the biggest fish in a small pond. Not picking on texas but that’s what they did.
It’s the best opportunity for a no loss season and a shot at a title, though it rarely worked out.
fsu had their shot at getting in and should be made to live with it. texas is taking the step so hats off to them.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:35 pm to borotiger
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Did the good posters just call it a year and leave?
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:51 pm to borotiger
No I’m still here for now after January I’m gone until next September ??
Posted on 12/23/23 at 10:48 pm to GoldenDawg
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FSU chose to join the ACC for the easiest route to football success.
If FSU (in the prime of the Bowden era) could have ditched Miami in the regular season and played in the SEC instead, I think they might have won more national titles.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 11:22 pm to Dallaswho
FSU and USF both applied to AAU. Who got in? USF.
Congrats to the Bulls on being the second Florida school to join.
Hint: Doubt AAU is going to accept any school with a circus.
Congrats to the Bulls on being the second Florida school to join.
Hint: Doubt AAU is going to accept any school with a circus.
This post was edited on 12/23/23 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:13 am to Clark14
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rarely worked out
FSU played for the natty in '93, '98, '99, and 2000. Didn't work out??
FSU and the ACC were an absolute joke in football before Bowden and the ACC. It was easy to hate FSU in the 90s unless you were a fan. Imagine Wyoming becoming so powerful and popular that they played for natties and lifted the Mountain West conference to the status of a power 5 conference in football. That's what FSU did in the late 80s and 90s.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:18 am to Globetrotter747
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If FSU (in the prime of the Bowden era) could have ditched Miami in the regular season and played in the SEC instead, I think they might have won more national titles.
UF kept FSU from winning at least 1 natty for sure.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:28 am to GoldenDawg
I viewed a paywall article recently [Otherwise I would link] which really put the onus of FSU's situation back on them.
As OP mentions, Bobby was of course quoted for saying 'He was like George Foreman' beating up on no-names, the way Bowden preferred it in joining the ACC.
But the article also pointed out after their acceptance in the ACC, they reaffirmed their joint support a couple of times, then let down the conference ... for not doing their part - winning.
Authors point was the ACC was weak, in part, because they've had no real competition in the conference other than Clemson, who would receive automatic bids to the CFP.
They are reaping what they have sown.
As OP mentions, Bobby was of course quoted for saying 'He was like George Foreman' beating up on no-names, the way Bowden preferred it in joining the ACC.
But the article also pointed out after their acceptance in the ACC, they reaffirmed their joint support a couple of times, then let down the conference ... for not doing their part - winning.
Authors point was the ACC was weak, in part, because they've had no real competition in the conference other than Clemson, who would receive automatic bids to the CFP.
They are reaping what they have sown.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:35 am to GoldenDawg
You people are beyond delusional. When FSU decided to join the ACC in 1991, the SEC hadn’t won a national championship in 11 years. In fact, Clemson had won one more recently and we played Miami (nattys in 83, 87, 89, 91) Clemson (81) and Florida every year as well as tough non conference games. People forget we had a series with Auburn in the 70s and 80s and LSU in the 90s etc as well. So don’t act like we played trash competition. SEC is scared of FSU joining because yall need Florida recruits and don’t want to lose out on more of them since your fly over states can’t produce as much talent just like Oklahoma leaching off of Texas.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:42 am to Globetrotter747
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If FSU (in the prime of the Bowden era) could have ditched Miami in the regular season and played in the SEC instead, I think they might have won more national titles.
LINK
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Bowden: “They did want us, they did invite us to join the SEC. Everybody thought we would join. In fact, I thought we would but our administration — the president and others — wanted the ACC, which really was better for us. It would have been hard wading through that SEC. Too many good teams in there, boy. Oh, gosh. Oh, that would have been some great ball.”
LINK
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:50 am to TXnole
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You people are beyond delusional. When FSU decided to join the ACC in 1991, the SEC hadn’t won a national championship in 11 years. In fact, Clemson had won one more recently and we played Miami (nattys in 83, 87, 89, 91) Clemson (81) and Florida every year as well as tough non conference games. People forget we had a series with Auburn in the 70s and 80s and LSU in the 90s etc as well. So don’t act like we played trash competition. SEC is scared of FSU joining because yall need Florida recruits and don’t want to lose out on more of them since your fly over states can’t produce as much talent just like Oklahoma leaching off of Texas.
Your head coach said several times that the road through the SEC was tougher. #DelusioNOLE
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 7:51 am
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:53 am to GoldenDawg
FSU best bet is to calm down and stay in the ACC. They'll get in the playoffs starting next year with almost no resistance.
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