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re: Fox Sports ranks SEC QBs

Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:44 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:44 am to
So Allen is going to be throwing to those former walkons and true freshmen now?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:47 am to
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So Allen is going to be throwing to those former walkons and true freshmen now?


Who said they were former walkons?

That is the entire roster, walk-ons included for the position.

Our best WR was out all year with an injury, some talented freshmen and a JUCO transfer has been added for this season.
Posted by Queen City Cock
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:49 am to
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Outside of the issues with the WRs, he did a great job in doing what he was asked to do, he didn't take many sacks, Arkansas went from being 115+ in that category to top 20.



Is there really much reason for a defense to attempt to sack the QB when there's a better than average chance he's just going to throw the ball into the ground anyway?
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:52 am to
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Best WR Arkansas has, and he's nothing special.


He was only a true sophomore last year, I'd expect him to get better this year. He was good after the catch and on WR reverses but had a lot of drops.

Hunter Henry isn't a WR but will get as many targets as anyone listed so far
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:53 am to
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Our best WR was out all year with an injury, some talented freshmen and a JUCO transfer has been added for this season.


So he is going to be throwing to WRs that he has not thrown to before?
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:54 am to
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gohogs141
I'm trying to ignore you and rag on DaleDenton because he sucks. You're a good poster, so ignore me for the time being.
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:57 am to
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So he is going to be throwing to WRs that he has not thrown to before?


Cornelius and Hollister were early enrollees so he threw to them during the spring. He has not thrown to Robinson.

He threw to Wilson (the one that was injured) during practice and the game and a half that he played in 2012
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:59 am to
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Cornelius and Hollister were early enrollees so he threw to them during the spring. He has not thrown to Robinson.

He threw to Wilson (the one that was injured) during practice and the game and a half that he played in 2012


With such a wealth of time together, I assume the drops and route running issues will be resolved by the first game then.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Cornelius and Hollister were early enrollees so he threw to them during the spring. He has not thrown to Robinson.

He threw to Wilson (the one that was injured) during practice and the game and a half that he played in 2012


No, he doesn't pick up a football until a 1/2 hour before the game, he, the WRs, and TEs are not working together this past spring or at the current time.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:01 pm to
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With such a wealth of time together, I assume the drops and route running issues will be resolved by the first game then.


You say all this like Auburn's WR and RB corp is a proven known commodity.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:03 pm to
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ou say all this like Auburn's WR and RB corp is a proven known commodity.
You were the one using it as an excuse as to why BA was the worst starting QB in the league last year.


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Yeah, WRs, which are now on the roster.

The major reason for his completion percentage was from drops to the WRs, the majority of his interception were caused from WRs running the wrong route or quitting on a route with the ball in the air.

Outside of the issues with the WRs, he did a great job in doing what he was asked to do,
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:05 pm to
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You were the one using it as an excuse as to why BA was the worst starting QB in the league last year.


No, I giving in detail examples why last year's results have no bearing on this year's.

Another assumption being made is that Marshall will improve, when reality is the only QB coached by Gus to every improve the second year was Casey Dick because he was coached by David Lee during his 2nd year.
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:06 pm to
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You say all this like Auburn's WR and RB corp is a proven known commodity


I have not said anything about Auburn.

I am learning about Arkys WR and QB.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Another assumption being made is that Marshall will improve
The reality is Gus has improved a returning starting college QBs numbers at every stop he's been at.
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when reality is the only QB coached by Gus to every improve the second year was Casey Dick because he was coached by David Lee during his 2nd year.
dd pls

Your tired schtick is old.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:13 pm to
Just look at what all Allen has had to go through though.

-3 different coaches in 3 years

-First college playing time came in a disaster of a game against ULM, first college start came against national champion Alabama

-The third game of 2013 he blows out his shoulder and isn't at 100% for the rest of the year

-His WRs drop every other pass or run the wrong routes half the time when he does hit them

-Played on maybe the two worst teams in razorback history the past two years

This year is the first year he'll actually have the time to develop some consistency. I don't think he's going to be all-SEC or anything but normally QBs improve a ton in their 2nd year starting
Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:14 pm to
All you need to look at is Allen's SEC record to know where he should rank.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Another assumption being made is that Marshall will improve, when reality is the only QB coached by Gus to every improve the second year was Casey Dick because he was coached by David Lee during his 2nd year.


Cam Newton,the year after he was coached by Gus, improved. He faced stiffer competition and broke the rookie passing record.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:16 pm to
Then AJ was on a completely different higher level as a QB than JFF.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Just look at what all Allen has had to go through though.

-3 different coaches in 3 years

-First college playing time came in a disaster of a game against ULM, first college start came against national champion Alabama

-The third game of 2013 he blows out his shoulder and isn't at 100% for the rest of the year

-His WRs drop every other pass or run the wrong routes half the time when he does hit them

-Played on maybe the two worst teams in razorback history the past two years

This year is the first year he'll actually have the time to develop some consistency. I don't think he's going to be all-SEC or anything but normally QBs improve a ton in their 2nd year starting


Do you know what the definition of schizophrenia is?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Cam Newton,the year after he was coached by Gus, improved.


Because he wasn't being coached by Gus.
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