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re: For non-Tigers: What if LSU goes 14-0 in 2012 and wins BCSNCG in Jan 2013?
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:14 pm to Monticello
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:14 pm to Monticello
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Bama has won 2 BCS crystals since LSU won their last one. Florida, Auburn and Alabama have all won them since LSU's last one. And if we are talking a 25 year time span, why do only BCS trophy's count since the BCS only started in 98? GTFO.
Because that is the system that Is in place, it is the one we use, and it's the only reason you were in the game to begin with . :DWI:
You have TWO BCS Crystals, and one pre BCS NC crystal. The OP is right IF he said LSU would be the first with two BCS crystals just like we were the first with two. Now kindly end this stupid argument. It's old and leads nowhere.
This post was edited on 2/15/12 at 8:16 pm
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Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:15 pm to therocketscientist
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WTF are you talking about? Bama's own site (which only needs to be updated for the recent BCS crystal trophy)
I hope you aren't working for MDA, NASA, or for a contractor out on Redstone....RollBamaRoll isn't school affiliated.. unless you want to say that Tigerdroppings is the official website for LSU football.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:20 pm to therocketscientist
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At the immediate timeframe, Bama has the best program without question (thanks Jordan Jefferson and CLM). Under my case, which would be valid, it shifts to LSU based on winning 30% in a decade and the most recent BCS trophy, with a strong returning team in 2013.
Under your "if" scenario, LSU would have 3 in 25 years, just like Bama and UF. One of those titles would be split with USC, and the other would be from a 2 loss team that lost to Kentucky and Arkansas. Bama and UF's 3 titles would be unanimous titles with 2 of Bama's 3 from undefeated teams. This thread is stupid.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:22 pm to memphisplaya
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Because that is the system that Is in place, it is the one we use, and it's the only reason you were in the game to begin with .
No, the BCS was not the system in place for a substantial portion of the 25 yr time frame the OP uses. And Bama would have been in the title game last year without the BCS because we were ranked #2 in the AP and Coaches polls as well as the BCS.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:25 pm to NBamaAlum
As of right now, Florida is the best team in the last 25 years and will still be the best in 25 if LSU wins it all next year. Bama and LSU's down periods were too bad to have us in consideration.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:30 pm to memphisplaya
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You have TWO BCS Crystals, and one pre BCS NC crystal. The OP is right IF he said LSU would be the first with two BCS crystals just like we were the first with two. Now kindly end this stupid argument. It's old and leads nowhere.
He said we only had two crystal balls. Then, when corrected, he qualified it with the BCS thingey. Call it the BCS, the Sears trophy, the Bowl Alliance...whatever. It's a NC and a crystal ball. What it's called is simply parsing to a ridiculous extreme to try to prove a point.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 8:31 pm to memphisplaya
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The OP is right IF he said LSU would be the first with two BCS crystals just like we were the first with two.
The fail is strong tonight...
Posted on 2/15/12 at 9:49 pm to Monticello
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from a 2 loss team that lost to Kentucky and Arkansas
I think I will qualify Bama's 2011 NC as "the one against the Jordan Jefferson-led inept/hapless offense". That is more demeaning than 2 triple OT losses for the '07 title.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 10:59 pm to therocketscientist
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So, IF (with full recognition that this is anything but a guaranteed, albeit the oddsmakers most likely scenario at this time) this occurs, would everyone agree that LSU was the premier college football program in the modern college football era and the best in the recent years also?
sure.
and after it happens, that LSU goes 14-0 with a solid win in the BCS champ game over a previously undefeated BCS opponent, it will feel different saying then, than it does now.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 11:09 pm to therocketscientist
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I think I will qualify Bama's 2011 NC as "the one against the Jordan Jefferson-led inept/hapless offense". That is more demeaning than 2 triple OT losses for the '07 title.
So before the title game LSU was poised to become the greatest team of all time. After the game, LSU was such a bad team that Bama's title should have an asterisk?
Posted on 2/15/12 at 11:25 pm to Monticello
We're arguing semantics here. The Coaches' Trophy is the same in 2011 as it was in 1986. Same trophy, same crystal, and Alabama has three of them.
Posted on 2/15/12 at 11:33 pm to therocketscientist
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For non-Tigers: What if LSU goes 14-0 in 2012 and wins BCSNCG in Jan 2013?
Let me guess. On January 8th, you probably would have posted this exact same what if scenario about LSU, IF they had beaten Bama in New Orleans. But guess what?
Sure, if a team goes 14-0, you are doing great. (Just ask some of those that have done that, they can tell you) But you got to get there first.
Meanwhile, go back and watch that last game and let me know how many top schools over the past 25 years have trouble getting a first down.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:06 am to CNB
when "ifs" and "buts" are candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:23 am to therocketscientist
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the best college football program in all of America in the modern era?
By your own completely arbitrary definition of the "modern era" Miami has 4 national championships so they beat you on NCs (in fact they are doubling you up right now), which is pretty much all you are talking about.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:28 am to elposter
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the best college football program in all of America in the modern era?
And this is a stupid assertion to make as LSU only has two crystal balls in the so-called "modern era." Miami won national championships in 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, and 2001. In my opinion the 80s qualify as the "modern era." Nebraska won national championships in 1994, 1995, and 1997. If that isn't the modern era I don't know what is. Florida has had more sustained success in the modern era than LSU has. They haven't had a losing season in forever and have 3 national championships as well as 7 or 8 SEC championships since 1990. In that same time period, Alabama has also won 3 national championships...but also only 3 SEC championships. Whilst LSU has won 2 national titles and 4 SEC titles.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 8:30 am
Posted on 2/16/12 at 8:34 am to therocketscientist
Hell no. If LSU goes 14-0 in 2012, they would have one undefeated season and three seasons with one or fewer losses. USC had an undefeated season and four seasons with one loss or less from 2003-2008. Florida State had eight seasons when they went undefeated or had only one loss including five within a six year span. Miami had multiple undefeated seasons and six seasons with one or fewer losses from 1986-1992. Nebraska had three undefeated seasons and five seasons with one or fewer losses from 1993-1999. All of those programs were better and more dominant at their peak than LSU in the last 25 years.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 8:40 am
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