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re: For all of you over the age of 35
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:33 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:33 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Thank you,
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:40 pm to lsufan31
damn glad you are willing to interpret for us old frickers. Maybe you can translate this to a language that you might be able to understand -- "frick you and the horse you rode in on!!!"
I bet you talk louder when speaking to people who don't speak English too. Dum frick
I bet you talk louder when speaking to people who don't speak English too. Dum frick
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:50 pm to GCTiger11
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why aren't people outraged when it's said towards other black guys but it's a big issue when said to a white dude?
Why are you making an assumption that some people aren't outraged. Or unhappy with the word being used?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 3:58 pm to mikrit54
After watching 12 years a Slave last night I can't believe it is used at all in this time. It's the most demeaning word of the English language.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:00 pm to Restomod
The issue really boils down to the "context" argument. The kids in this thread(whether a kid by age or by maturity level) argue that the term is fine and dandy if used in a non-disparaging context. They say it is fine for a white person to say it if the context is not racist. We know that is a pipe dream and does not hold true on the public stage regardless of how endearingly it was intended. Perhaps in a locker room or on the street but NEVER in a public situation like a press conference or an interview type situation. A white person cannot use that term under any public circumstance regardless of context without being burned at the Social Justice of Political Correctness Altar.
If you think otherwise then you are just demonstrating youthful naïveté or a lack of real world experience. Who determines what the context was? Of course....it is easy pickings in many cases so that no elaborate determination is required. Some white man that says "I really hate n****s" really leaves no room for interpretation. But if a white man says "my n***a really balled out tonight" in a public statement ( press conference, Twitter, FB, etc) would fall under the wrath of every SJW and PC maniac who became aware of the incident. Small time exposure for some average person....just being lambasted about his/her racial insensitivity on his small social network. But enormous National exposure if he/she was a celebrity, athlete or CEO of a major corporation.
So...who gets to arbitrate the intended context from the white person when it is not apparent that it was intended to be hateful or obviously racist? Those with an agenda....that's who. They would frame it however they want to further an agenda....regardless of context. It is a double standard that needs to end. The word is filtered out of just about every social forum because it carries a very negative connotation. I am very sorry if some of the kids on here cannot go a day without using the term but it seems like it would be an easy habit to quit. Maybe instead of arguing for their right to use a racial slur in their daily repertoire of the English language in a "good intention" type of way.....they could exert some energy into putting an end to the word usage in their generation. Leadership is cool too even if your peers don't readily acknowledge it.
Never thought I would see the day when the older generation is arguing for the restriction of the slur while the young generation is arguing for their right to use it with "good context."
If you think otherwise then you are just demonstrating youthful naïveté or a lack of real world experience. Who determines what the context was? Of course....it is easy pickings in many cases so that no elaborate determination is required. Some white man that says "I really hate n****s" really leaves no room for interpretation. But if a white man says "my n***a really balled out tonight" in a public statement ( press conference, Twitter, FB, etc) would fall under the wrath of every SJW and PC maniac who became aware of the incident. Small time exposure for some average person....just being lambasted about his/her racial insensitivity on his small social network. But enormous National exposure if he/she was a celebrity, athlete or CEO of a major corporation.
So...who gets to arbitrate the intended context from the white person when it is not apparent that it was intended to be hateful or obviously racist? Those with an agenda....that's who. They would frame it however they want to further an agenda....regardless of context. It is a double standard that needs to end. The word is filtered out of just about every social forum because it carries a very negative connotation. I am very sorry if some of the kids on here cannot go a day without using the term but it seems like it would be an easy habit to quit. Maybe instead of arguing for their right to use a racial slur in their daily repertoire of the English language in a "good intention" type of way.....they could exert some energy into putting an end to the word usage in their generation. Leadership is cool too even if your peers don't readily acknowledge it.
Never thought I would see the day when the older generation is arguing for the restriction of the slur while the young generation is arguing for their right to use it with "good context."
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:12 pm to thirdlawson
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Stupid thread.
is stupid
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:15 pm to Dirty Whistle
Yet the OP seems to think everyone over 35 needs a lesson on the word.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:20 pm to UnAnon
Funny the people who constantly accuse blacks of playing the victim roll will bitch all day because hypothetically if the rolls were reverse they wouldn't get to play victim.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:23 pm to Dick Leverage
dick, you and a few of the codgers in here are welcome at my kitchen table anytime,, as long as you don't mind drinking coffee out of purple & gold mugs.
Good post,, that's what I've been trying to say for 2 days,,, "politically correct", of course.
Good post,, that's what I've been trying to say for 2 days,,, "politically correct", of course.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:42 pm to Dick Leverage
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The issue really boils down to the "context" argument. The kids in this thread(whether a kid by age or by maturity level) argue that the term is fine and dandy if used in a non-disparaging context.
Link? Everyone has said in here that they're not a fan of the word. No one in here a kid. WildTchoupitoulas just kept calling people who were disagreeing with him "kid/kids" to give him a sense of seniority on the subject.
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But if a white man says "my n***a really balled out tonight" in a public statement ( press conference, Twitter, FB, etc) would fall under the wrath of every SJW and PC maniac who became aware of the incident.
No argument there. I agree.
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The word is filtered out of just about every social forum because it carries a very negative connotation
This is also true. If that word is said on this site, it's more than likely being used in a negative and derogatory way.
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I am very sorry if some of the kids on here cannot go a day without using the term but it seems like it would be an easy habit to quit.
Again, no one on here says the word. No one in here likes the word. And please don't start with the kid shite either. Get over yourselves. Everyone in here is at least in their mid-20's and college educated.
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Maybe instead of arguing for their right to use a racial slur in their daily repertoire of the English language in a "good intention" type of way.....they could exert some energy into putting an end to the word usage in their generation
Who is arguing for their right to use it? We're simply just saying that his intention wasn't racist. That's where the debate ends.
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Never thought I would see the day when the older generation is arguing for the restriction of the slur while the young generation is arguing for their right to use it with "good context."
And again. No one is arguing for their right. But some of us are aware at many young black athletes drop the word like it's a cough. Why? Who knows? Like cas said, they've more than likely desensitized the word after those who came before them were subject to countless insults with that word being in the forefront.
If you truly think this is a thread about a group of young posters telling the old guys that saying n***a is cool then you're clueless. It's a thread about a group of posters who, using common sense, acknowledge that young black athletes utilize that word in their compliments AND insults regardless of the race of the person they're addressing.
Harrison came off as really butthurt and insulted Kaminsky on live tv. Want to be upset about something? Be upset over that. Not that the fact that he used a word that doesn't even logically make sense to use towards a white jewish guy.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:54 pm to GCTiger11
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. Everyone in here is at least in their mid-20's and college educated.
This is the only one of your wrong statements that I'm going to fool with, but anyway, it's wrong.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:57 pm to Ole Geauxt
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This is the only one of your wrong statements
Care to tell me the others?
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but anyway, it's wrong.
Well I mean, the only ones he was arguing with were me, Belle, and Cas. We're all at least in our mid-20's, Belle said she was in her 30's, and we're all college educated. I mean, it's not like there are teenagers (or like most old guys would say, YOUNG PUNKS) in here debating
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 4:59 pm to GCTiger11
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WildTchoupitoulas just kept calling people who were disagreeing with him "kid/kids" to give him a sense of seniority on the subject.
Not really, I was just responding to, you know, the OP:
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For all of you over the age of 35:
"frick that ****" isn't a racial slur
I am over the age of 35, therefore the thread is directed at me.
Also, I disagree with the OP. I believe it is a racial slur.
Then you came in with all of your assumptions.
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And please don't start with the kid shite either. Get over yourselves. Everyone in here is at least in their mid-20's and college educated.
Looks like someone's a little testy about the 'kids' thing. Being 25 and college educated does not a man make. You'll understand that one day. But the funny part is you telling people over 35 to get over themselves in a thread directed at "all of you over the age of 35" like that is some sort of cut off for who knows and who doesn't know. So I'm just going to go ahead and assume that 35 is the cutoff for who's a kid and who's an adult. I mean, assumptions seem to be de rigueur in the thread amirite?
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It's a thread about...young black athletes [using a] word in their compliments AND insults regardless of the race of the person they're addressing...Not that the fact that he used a word that doesn't even logically make sense to use towards a white jewish guy.
So you don't even care if the Jewish guy was offended by being called a n*****? You think that's irrelevant?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:00 pm to GCTiger11
Well, you don't have to go past the 1st post, the OP, to find a dumbass kid,, you can start there and keep on rolling,, have a good time..
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:14 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Not really, I was just responding to, you know, the OP:
You constantly kept referring "the kids" in here. don't think you weren't only talking about OP
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But the funny part is you telling people over 35 to get over themselves in a thread
No, I'm telling people who think just because they're a few decades younger than you doesn't make them any less informed on the subject. I've already gotten in a debate over this with someone younger than me. It just so happens it's the old guys crying BUT BUT WHY CANT I SAY IT??? The wounds from the whole SAE debacle seem to be very fresh still. That's a whole different can of worms, but I was against the students' expulsion. I'm just saying that because I know how easily posters on this site assume because you're on one side of these type of debates, you're consistent with that side every time these big race debates pop back up. I'm not running an agenda to get the n word used regularly
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So you don't even care if the Jewish guy was offended by being called a n*****? You think that's irrelevant?
Would you seriously be offended if someone called you that word? A word that can just as easily be turned on its head and used in a complementary context? The equivalent of words such a man, dude, guy, etc.? The word is derogatory, sure. But it's one of those rare terms where context is everything.
"frick that guy" "frick that n****"
"That guy played awesome tonight" "That ***** played awesome tonight"
As soon as you guys get that black people use that word just as you and I would use guy, maybe you'll understand why some of us don't think it's racist. Is it fair that they can see it freely and we can't? Maybe not. I have no use to say the word. I don't understand why old white guys are crying because they can't say it. It'd look trashy as hell but more power to them. But nothing about this is racist.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:14 pm to Ole Geauxt
quote:yeah I probably would've handled the thread title a little better
Well, you don't have to go past the 1st post, the OP, to find a dumbass kid,,
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:20 pm to GCTiger11
Bro you aren't going to change anyone's mind. I realized this earlier and decided to stop responding.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:22 pm to cas4t
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Bro you aren't going to change anyone's mind. I realized this earlier and decided to stop responding.
Yeah, I'm just gonna tap out
This is just one of those agree to disagree things
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/15 at 5:24 pm to GCTiger11
very few times is someone capable of changing someone's minds on here. Not to mention when it comes to a "old timers vs millenials" argument. They'll argue til the son goes down.
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