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re: Florida State's impressive bowl history vs. Auburn's "magic"

Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:21 pm to
the line fluctuated from Auburn -2 to Auburn +2
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:29 pm to
Bernie Kosar is the only redshirt freshman quarterback to lead his team to the national title. He started all 12 games for Miami in 1983.

(Only one true freshman has ever led a team to a national championship: Oklahoma's Jamelle Holieway in 1985.

Holieway, from Wilmington Banning High, became the Sooners' starter in the fourth game of the 1985 season because Troy Aikman broke his leg during an Oct. 19 loss to Miami.)

*Vick - was a redshirt freshman when the Hokies lost to FSU in the national title game.

Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:30 pm to
If FSU beats Auburn, it won't be because of some bowl stat we've abstracted from some little bit of arbitrary data. It will be because their players lined up against our players on January 6th and beat us more times than not. Screw this history shite.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

the line fluctuated from Auburn -2 to Auburn +2


Auburn opened as a 1 point favorite and was a 1 point favorite at kickoff.

Point remains. It's laughable to suggest Auburn was the underdog. A push would be the most accurate description.

They were considered more or less equals and that was validated by the first three quarters of play after which Auburn separated themselves to the shock of very few people who've watched Mizzou in big games.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 6:42 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

If FSU beats Auburn, it won't be because of some bowl stat we've abstracted from some little bit of arbitrary data. It will be because their players lined up against our players on January 6th and beat us more times than not. Screw this history shite.


It was a device to get us talking about something, anything other than Saban and Bama.

You're welcome.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:38 pm to
If that's the case, I'll take it.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:50 pm to
frickers better hope they keep us under 30 or it's over.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:57 pm to
I agree a hedge bet will be in order.
Posted by BigRobHog
Fort Smith, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to
I can respect them only because they are from the south but auburn will roll them.
Posted by BigRobHog
Fort Smith, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2013
268 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to
I can respect them winning only because they are from the south but auburn will roll them.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to
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frickers better hope they keep us under 30 or it's over.


For those not aware, Auburn is 87-0 or something ridiculous when scoring at least 30 points in a game...dating back like a decade or something.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

For those not aware, Auburn is 87-0 or something ridiculous when scoring at least 30 points in a game...dating back like a decade or something.


I was not aware.

Too bad we can't bump this offseason thread that discussed it:
LINK

Pretty funny stuff in there in light of how Auburn's season turned out.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 8:20 pm to
In the very first BCS title game, Florida State was considered a heavy favorite despite Tennessee being ranked #1 and undefeated. Vegas put Tennessee as 5.5 pt underdogs. FSU was not just a media darling but Tennessee though undefeated wasn't given a chance. FSU was destined to win and Tennessee couldn't hope to beat them. The SEC wasn't considered the premier conference it is today.

That game changed things. We were reluctantly given respect and it took more than a few BCS titles by SEC schools for the media to stop seeing other conferences as superior.

Auburn, let's end the BCS era the way it all began: Go kick FSU's arse!
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 8:21 pm
Posted by Rbama13
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jul 2011
685 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 pm to
History is a reliable reference for human behavior, politics and major world events. It is not as reliable for sports. It's great to know FSU has such an awesome bowl record but that winning record is not going to help them win the National Championship in January. I was a history major, can't you tell??!
Posted by blueridge
charlottesville,va
Member since Dec 2012
28 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:27 pm to
No "magic" was involved in outcoaching Saban and outplaying UA's overrated dimwits.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:33 pm to
I was a Tennessee fan during the 1998 season (grew up that way since my family went to Tennessee). Now that I'm an AU fan, I'd like nothing more to end the BCS the same way as it started back then - SEC victory
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