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Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:29 pm to beaver
Bernie Kosar is the only redshirt freshman quarterback to lead his team to the national title. He started all 12 games for Miami in 1983.
(Only one true freshman has ever led a team to a national championship: Oklahoma's Jamelle Holieway in 1985.
Holieway, from Wilmington Banning High, became the Sooners' starter in the fourth game of the 1985 season because Troy Aikman broke his leg during an Oct. 19 loss to Miami.)
*Vick - was a redshirt freshman when the Hokies lost to FSU in the national title game.
(Only one true freshman has ever led a team to a national championship: Oklahoma's Jamelle Holieway in 1985.
Holieway, from Wilmington Banning High, became the Sooners' starter in the fourth game of the 1985 season because Troy Aikman broke his leg during an Oct. 19 loss to Miami.)
*Vick - was a redshirt freshman when the Hokies lost to FSU in the national title game.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:30 pm to BrerTiger
If FSU beats Auburn, it won't be because of some bowl stat we've abstracted from some little bit of arbitrary data. It will be because their players lined up against our players on January 6th and beat us more times than not. Screw this history shite.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:35 pm to beaver
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the line fluctuated from Auburn -2 to Auburn +2
Auburn opened as a 1 point favorite and was a 1 point favorite at kickoff.
Point remains. It's laughable to suggest Auburn was the underdog. A push would be the most accurate description.
They were considered more or less equals and that was validated by the first three quarters of play after which Auburn separated themselves to the shock of very few people who've watched Mizzou in big games.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:36 pm to LandofDixie
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If FSU beats Auburn, it won't be because of some bowl stat we've abstracted from some little bit of arbitrary data. It will be because their players lined up against our players on January 6th and beat us more times than not. Screw this history shite.
It was a device to get us talking about something, anything other than Saban and Bama.
You're welcome.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:38 pm to BrerTiger
If that's the case, I'll take it.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:50 pm to BrerTiger
frickers better hope they keep us under 30 or it's over.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 6:57 pm to Edearl Watson
I agree a hedge bet will be in order.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to BrerTiger
I can respect them only because they are from the south but auburn will roll them.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to BrerTiger
I can respect them winning only because they are from the south but auburn will roll them.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:02 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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frickers better hope they keep us under 30 or it's over.
For those not aware, Auburn is 87-0 or something ridiculous when scoring at least 30 points in a game...dating back like a decade or something.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 7:14 pm to metafour
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For those not aware, Auburn is 87-0 or something ridiculous when scoring at least 30 points in a game...dating back like a decade or something.
I was not aware.
Too bad we can't bump this offseason thread that discussed it:
LINK
Pretty funny stuff in there in light of how Auburn's season turned out.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 8:20 pm to BrerTiger
In the very first BCS title game, Florida State was considered a heavy favorite despite Tennessee being ranked #1 and undefeated. Vegas put Tennessee as 5.5 pt underdogs. FSU was not just a media darling but Tennessee though undefeated wasn't given a chance. FSU was destined to win and Tennessee couldn't hope to beat them. The SEC wasn't considered the premier conference it is today.
That game changed things. We were reluctantly given respect and it took more than a few BCS titles by SEC schools for the media to stop seeing other conferences as superior.
Auburn, let's end the BCS era the way it all began: Go kick FSU's arse!
That game changed things. We were reluctantly given respect and it took more than a few BCS titles by SEC schools for the media to stop seeing other conferences as superior.
Auburn, let's end the BCS era the way it all began: Go kick FSU's arse!
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:14 pm to Prof
History is a reliable reference for human behavior, politics and major world events. It is not as reliable for sports. It's great to know FSU has such an awesome bowl record but that winning record is not going to help them win the National Championship in January. I was a history major, can't you tell??!
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:27 pm to BrerTiger
No "magic" was involved in outcoaching Saban and outplaying UA's overrated dimwits.
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:33 pm to Prof
I was a Tennessee fan during the 1998 season (grew up that way since my family went to Tennessee). Now that I'm an AU fan, I'd like nothing more to end the BCS the same way as it started back then - SEC victory
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