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re: Florida should have kept Jim McElwain
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:40 am to BigScoreboard
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:40 am to BigScoreboard
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The Gators nickname is kinda tired. They should have run with it and become the Shark Humpers
This is bad and you should feel bad.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:41 am to ukraine_rebel
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He jumped the shark, literally.
Hey Big Scorebaord, this one is funny, and gets an upvote. Work on your comedy please for the good of the board.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:13 pm to Partha
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8-4 with a team that had enough offensive talent to take Bama to the wire,
Half the team sat out the bowl game against OU and Bama was Bama. One loss was by 3 on the road to one of A&Ms greatest teams ever. I don't have an explanation for shoegate.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:17 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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In his defense, it was a really hot shark. And it was swimming around out there all naked. It was basically asking for it.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:34 pm to panhandlebama
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That's been debunked.
Debunk these nuts
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:15 pm to rolltide32
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Half the team sat out the bowl game against OU and Bama was Bama. One loss was by 3 on the road to one of A&Ms greatest teams ever. I don't have an explanation for shoegate.
What's your explanation for him going 5-6 the next season, losing to South Carolina 40-17 as a 3 touchdown favorite, giving up 52 points at home to a sub .500 fcs Samford, and having no recruiting class?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:51 pm to panhandlebama
He was afraid for his life. With all them "death threats".
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 6:53 pm to Partha
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What's your explanation for him going 5-6 the next season, losing to South Carolina 40-17 as a 3 touchdown favorite, giving up 52 points at home to a sub .500 fcs Samford, and having no recruiting class?
One bad year. Happens to most people not named Nick Saban or Kirby Smart
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:03 pm to rolltide32
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One bad year.
I already mentioned it was 2 bad years not only one.
Plus 6-8 wins is Dan Mullen's career average. He regressed to his mean after MacElwain's players went pro and he had the roster that he built.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:35 pm to Partha
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already mentioned it was 2 bad years not only one.
And I refuted that point by point.
The guy had 4 years
Finished ranked in the top 12 in 3 of them and played in NY6 bowls all 3 of those years.
You are delusional to call 2020 a bad year.
Florida is delusional. People act like the entire history of Florida football outside of Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer doesn't exist.
They are outliers not the rule
In the last 13 years of Florida football not coached by Dan Mullen they have 1 other season where the finished top 12 in a poll and made a NY6 equivalent bowl
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:38 pm to rolltide32
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The guy had 4 years
And got worse as each year went on.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:40 pm to Partha
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got worse as each year went on.
Blatantly false. Year 2 was much better than year 1.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:40 pm to rolltide32
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You are delusional to call 2020 a bad year.
One of the most embarrassing regular season losses in program history "Shoe game" and one of the biggest bowl losses in program history?
Lost 3 straight to end the year.
Maybe not the worst of the worst seasons, but definitely an underachieving/disappointing one. Followed up by a total disaster.
The guy was done.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:41 pm to rolltide32
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Blatantly false. Year 2 was much better than year 1.
Lost 3 games year 1, lost 2 year 2.
Marginally better. Also lucked into that with the injury of Felipe Franks as they were going to lose to Kentucky again that year until Trask saved his arse.
In fact, without Kyle Trask, Mullen was absolutely terrible at Florida.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:43 pm to Walkthedawg
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How are they still the Chippewas in 2023 in commie meeechigan
Because they have the support of the tribe. The tribe gets approval on usage of the name in marketing, etc. sometimes schools get permission and do things right.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:45 pm to Partha
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Lost 3 games year 1, lost 2 year 2.
Marginally better.
They got shite stomped by Kentucky, Georgia, and Missouri in year 1.
Lost by 2 TDs with a backup QB to LSUs greatest team ever and played Georgia within 7 in year 2. Record does not show the full story.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:49 pm to rolltide32
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Record does not show the full story.
Yes, that is correct.
They were en route to getting shite stomped by Kentucky again when Kyle Trask became the QB.
Mullen refused to play Trask until he absolutely had to, and Trask carried him for two seasons.
Once he left, Dan put in his offense with his recruits and was a total shitshow, en route to going 5-7.
5-8 wins is Dan Mullen's window.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:54 pm to Partha
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en route to going 5-7.
They didn't go 5-7
They went 5-6 he got fired and they finished 6-7.
The point of the argument is Mullen was miles better than McElwaine who it was proposed they should have kept.
McElwain lost more games by 14+ in 2 and 1/2 seasons than Mullen lost in 2 games shy of 4 seasons.
McElwain's last year Florida went 4-7 (3-4 when he was fired)
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:56 pm to GoGators1995
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And we saw how bad he was in 2017 without Geoff Collins.
And?
We all saw how bad GT sucked out loud WITH Coach Waffle House at the helm.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 7:57 pm to rolltide32
Correct, but if he didn't get fired at 5-6, they would certainly have gone 5-7.
Knox played Anthony Richardson against FSU, and for all his flaws as a qb, he was much better than Emory Jones who Mullen refused to bench. Richardson won that game against FSU, and Mullen would've never put him in. Thus, they would have likely lost and finished 5-7 had Dan not been fired.
Got it, yeah I won't disagree with that.
My argument was that MacElwain should have been fired AND Dan should have been fired. Neither should have been retained.
Knox played Anthony Richardson against FSU, and for all his flaws as a qb, he was much better than Emory Jones who Mullen refused to bench. Richardson won that game against FSU, and Mullen would've never put him in. Thus, they would have likely lost and finished 5-7 had Dan not been fired.
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The point of the argument is Mullen was miles better than McElwaine who it was proposed they should have kept.
Got it, yeah I won't disagree with that.
My argument was that MacElwain should have been fired AND Dan should have been fired. Neither should have been retained.
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