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re: Florida & Georgia to the Big XII

Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:17 pm to
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TeLeFaWx

Yea man, you were dead on. Great post
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:29 pm to
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This is what I don't get.

- You do realize that the SEC is king and they picked off the programs they wanted from under your nose, right?

- You do realize that you lost Colorado to the Pac 12, and Nebraska to the B1G, allowing each of those conferences to geographically block you in and steal your third most prestigious program that had a national following, right?

- You do realize that at the moment A&M left the Big 12 was forced to take a small private school with a 44,000 person stadium in its current footprint in TCU that was already left behind 15 years ago when the SWC collapsed, right?

- You do realize that when Mizzou left, the Big 12 was forced to take a West Virginia team 1200 miles away from Austin it has no ties to and that wasn't desired by any other conference in the country, right?

- You do realize that your conference consists of 8 teams that provide marginal value at best, and would provide absolutely no value to any other conference outside of maybe KU in the B1G if basketball becomes drastically more valuable, right?

- You do realize that OU already tried to leave for the Pac 12 but was rejected, right?

- You do realize that the individual network model is pointless, and only leverages against the foundation of the league, right?

- You do realize that $20 million guaranteed, whether true or not, only puts you ahead of the ACC, and will always be marginalized by the strength and solidarity other leagues that share tier 3 rights as opposed to the individual network model that everyone will be pigeon holed in to because of the Longhorn Network, right?

- You do realize that the Big 12 thinks it can expand at will in to the ACC, but that the SEC could simply throw the ACC a lifeline and create some sort of in season alliance that mimics the Pac 12/B1G and block off the Big 12 from ever sniffing any team in the ACC, right?

- You do realize that the only program that would ever enjoy the egotistical attitude that tu has is Notre Dame, but the fact that your conference would require trips to Aimes, Manhattan(not the NY one), Lawrence, Lubbock, Stillwater, Waco and Morgantown will never let the Irish come close to sniffing any sort of membership since they can(and have) schedule OU and tu, but still keep Michigan, Michigan State, Navy, Stanford, USC, PItt, etc in light of being lock in to your shitty conference, right?

- You do realize that while the Champions Bowl with the SEC is a great sign of stability, that the college post season is constantly changing, and the second the 4 team playoff goes to an 8 team playoff, there is absolutely no reason for the SEC to continue playing your shitty conference, right?

- You do realize that national powers can fall in to irrelevance, and programs like FSU, Miami, and Notre Dame that all established greater dynasties than anything tu has come close to doing, have all become marginalized by having too many irrelevant and non important games on their schedule, something that is happening to OU and tu, right?

- You do realize that the irony is all of this is that tu could have avoided this all together, right?

- You do realize they could have bolstered and strengthened the Big 12 instead of trying to maximize it's own profits in light of already making more money than anyone, right?


I think that you are a bit behind. Here's some homework for you.

LINK

LINK

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:29 pm to
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Yea man, you were dead on. Great post


Thanks!

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:33 pm to
You would link some Dennis Dodds bullshite. And I know it's bullshite because it was published by Dennis Dodds.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:34 pm to
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I think that you are a bit behind. Here's some homework for you.


I'm so so so so glad you linked me to articles quoting DeLoss Dodds. It makes me realize you believe every single word I wrote, but you desperately need someone to talk you off the ledge. So cute, teasip.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:35 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:36 pm to
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And I know it's bullshite because it was published by Dennis Dodds


In my experience, this is a true statement in general
Posted by LSU1860
West Louisiana
Member since Mar 2006
1271 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:00 pm to
Typical Longhorn bitch...

FTEXAS

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:03 pm to
Ok I read those links and I don't see how they change anything.

Those links didn't magically make four teams not leave the Big 12, nor did they magically make the two teams added not be the rejects of other major leagues. The links didn't tell me about plans to double the attendance at TCU games next year, which would be the minimum needed for cockroaches to really be replacements for the Aggies, or plans to give WVU AAU status like Mizzou has.

The links didn't explain away the fact that the biggest cable provider in Austin recently dropped negotiations for the LHN, or that Direct TV recently said they will never carry it. The links didn't tell me that ESPN mercifully undid the LHN contract that kills the value of a Big 12 Network for over a decade, or even that ESPN was done suing Texas.

The links do nothing to undo the fact that the SEC has won the last six MNCs, and that the "sliver" of Texas and Missouri the SEC just acquired includes three of the largest metropolitan areas in the country.

Finally the links don't explain away the concept that if the SEC won't take FSU now then there is no way they would take Texas in the future, so when yall are ready to move past the failure of the LHN you know that the best league, which by then will have pimped up little brother to your detriment, is not an option.
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 1:07 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36450 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:10 pm to
he does bring up a good point that you fricks besides uga, vandy, and florida suck at school
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:10 pm to
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Ok I read those links and I don't see how they change anything.


He didn't address any point I made, he just linked to articles that said, "omg, yay Big 12", but didn't address any of the substance. The Big 12 had been relegated to the 4th best conference in the country in almost every category(wealth, national powerhouses, compelling games, venues, etc), with no foreseeable ability to climb out of that hole. Which is sad seeing that in the early 2000s the Big 12 South was the best division in college football, and in the mid to late 90s, the Big 12 North could have made a claim for that.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:12 pm to
The SEC now has more AAU members than the Big 12.

If you try to argue the SEC sucks at academics, you are implying that the Big 12 REALLY sucks.
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
Member since Oct 2011
2693 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:15 pm to
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rockchlkjayhku11


You're a bandwagon kU basketball fan that apparently "attends" UGA. Shut you're whore mouth and learn how to be a better fan.

EDIT: Good post TeLeFaWx, normally you're just trolling us
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:17 pm to
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cardboardboxer


Here is all you need to know. The Big 12 is not going to crater. It will flourish. Now, enjoy the SEC & quit worrying about us.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9462 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:19 pm to
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he does bring up a good point that you fricks besides uga, vandy, and florida suck at school
quote:

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Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:23 pm to
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Now, enjoy the SEC & quit worrying about us.


Says the sip responding to a troll Aggie thread on a SEC site.

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:23 pm to
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EDIT: Good post TeLeFaWx, normally you're just trolling us


I am a man of many talents.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9462 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:24 pm to
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Here is all you need to know. The Big 12 is not going to crater. It will flourish. Now, enjoy the SEC & quit worrying about us.


The Big 12 is fricked if Texas and/or OU decide to leave. As much as I hate the Whorns, they will flourish regardless of the fate of the Big 12-2-1-1+2. The same cannot be said for most of your obedient peons within the conference (I'm looking at you Baylor, Tech, TCU, WVU, Iowa State, kU, & KSU).
This post was edited on 6/3/12 at 1:27 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:27 pm to
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Here is all you need to know. The Big 12 is not going to crater. It will flourish. Now, enjoy the SEC & quit worrying about us.


Here is all you need to know. The Big 12 might not crater, but it won't flourish. We will enjoy the SEC & we will always worry about our little brother.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:39 pm to
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The Big 12 is fricked if Texas and/or OU decide to leave. As much as I hate the Whorns, they will flourish regardless of the fate of the Big 12-2-1-1+2. The same cannot be said for most of your obedient peons within the conference (I'm looking at you Baylor, Tech, TCU, WVU, Iowa State, kU, & KSU).


15 years ago, some would have said that no matter what happens, Notre Dame and Miami will always flourish. Some trends are not cyclical, they are chronic, especially those involving money. The Big 12 will make the 4th most money from here in to perpetuity barring a highly unlikely coup of the ACC, and even then, there is no solidarity because of the Longhorn Network.
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